[Kaschan]

Liosan, on Feb 10 2009, 04:18 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Feb 10 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 10 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

Ok just skimmed up to this point will go now and make a more detailed reading of this kaschan thing

FFS, there's no Kaschan thing. There's a Galain/Korlat thing of which I am at the receiving end

Fine then il go and review this Galain/Korlat thing of which your at the receiving end

Summary: Galain spammed like an epilectic monkey, attracting Korlat's vote. Then Galain accused Korlat of being the stupidest symp since Hans tried to infiltrate a gay pride parade wearing a swastika, then there's been tons of fighting and somehow they are now both voting for me.

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 10 February 2009 - 02:21 PM

[Anomandaris]

Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

"For me to know"

Kind of implies the person saying it "knows" no?

Or does "know" have a different meaning these days.

Chucking a hoary old cliche into the mix, when we're still spamming like hell, doesn't really present a case in my opinion, hence I have withheld my vote so far. As I said earlier, half the players haven't even entered the fray yet.

[Galain]

Kaschan, on Feb 10 2009, 04:21 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 10 2009, 04:18 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Feb 10 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

Liosan, on Feb 10 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

Ok just skimmed up to this point will go now and make a more detailed reading of this kaschan thing

FFS, there's no Kaschan thing. There's a Galain/Korlat thing of which I am at the receiving end

Fine then il go and review this Galain/Korlat thing of which your at the receiving end

Summary: Galain spammed like an epilectic monkey, attracting Korlat's vote. Then Galain accused Korlat of being the stupidest symp since Hans tried to infiltrate a gay pride parade wearing a swastika, then there's been tons of fighting and somehow they are now both voting for me.

So we should just ignore any slip ever on account of it being too stupid?
People do slip up stupidly sometimes.

[Silanah]

Stop being so literal Galain. It's a common saying for being coy and not giving up information. It doesn't say anything about what he knows. Idiomatic language can be confusing though.

[Kaschan]

Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 04:22 PM, said:

So we should just ignore any slip ever on account of it being too stupid?
People do slip up stupidly sometimes.

"I know you're not on my team because Kaschan is not your leader" is more than a slip, it's a mental disease.

Anyways, lynch me, I don't care, just don't lynch Anomander or Tennes.

oops did I say that out loud??

[Anomandaris]

Kaschan, on Feb 10 2009, 02:24 PM, said:

Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 04:22 PM, said:

So we should just ignore any slip ever on account of it being too stupid?
People do slip up stupidly sometimes.

"I know you're not on my team because Kaschan is not your leader" is more than a slip, it's a mental disease.

Anyways, lynch me, I don't care, just don't lynch Anomander or Tennes.

oops did I say that out loud??

me?? ME??

[Tennes]

Silanah, on Feb 10 2009, 02:23 PM, said:

Stop being so literal Galain. It's a common saying for being coy and not giving up information. It doesn't say anything about what he knows. Idiomatic language can be confusing though.

You are right about it being a common saying for someone being coy, but personally i've only ever seen it used when the person using it has that information.

[Galain]

Well, considering that anomander voted tennes earlier, it could also be taken as you using this excuse to let them know you're on their team, that ano is the 3rd and tennes the 1st.

Alternatively you could be trying to prove a point.

Also, he didn't say it in the same post, or exactly that clearly.

[Shadow]

Just want to point out, that what convinced me something was up, was Korlats first post after the case, it was something that i saw as distancing, sort of like, OH YEAH!, You think I am On Kas's team!! Well, then I'll vote him so yuou don't think so anymore! HA! Thats how I saw that, anyway. Wasn't the case, more Korlat's reaction to it.

[Korlat]

Shadow, on Feb 10 2009, 03:11 PM, said:

One thing Kas, you must understand that if we do in fact lynch you today, that Korlat will be the next to go, to determine whether or not you were in fact both on the same team. So even though he may be fake symping you, he will still not be very successful because if you are on seperate teams, he will have lost one for your team and one for his.

Thats why i am getting rather pissed off right now.
I am damned if i do, damned if i dont.
The more i argue how daft his case is the more i look like a symp.
And if i let it go then i am trying to change the subject.

All that happened was galain called me a Symp out of the blue.
I didnt even know who i was supposed to be sym'ping.

I explained to galain that we are all symps, and since he didnt realize this he is obviously NOT a symp.
SO therefore is a 3rd or 1st.

After that he asked how i know he isnt on his side, I ALLUDED to the fact that i know he is not to see what kind of reaction he would give.
I found it fascinating that he jumped right onto kaschan without thinking he could be on his side. I do hope that kaschan is in fact on his side. And would then love to see his reaction tonight (if we lynch him) for being wrong.

Poor kaschan is gonna take the brunt of my getting galains knickers all bunched up, but im not too worried as he aint one of my leaders

[Kaschan]

Korlat, on Feb 10 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

Poor kaschan is gonna take the brunt of my getting galains knickers all bunched up, but im not too worried as he aint one of my leaders

Considering I'm a petty man with constant internet access and a long memory, I would still be a bit worried if I were you

[Shadow]

Korlat, on Feb 10 2009, 06:26 AM, said:

Shadow, on Feb 10 2009, 03:11 PM, said:

One thing Kas, you must understand that if we do in fact lynch you today, that Korlat will be the next to go, to determine whether or not you were in fact both on the same team. So even though he may be fake symping you, he will still not be very successful because if you are on seperate teams, he will have lost one for your team and one for his.

Thats why i am getting rather pissed off right now.
I am damned if i do, damned if i dont.
The more i argue how daft his case is the more i look like a symp.
And if i let it go then i am trying to change the subject.

All that happened was galain called me a Symp out of the blue.
I didnt even know who i was supposed to be sym'ping.

I explained to galain that we are all symps, and since he didnt realize this he is obviously NOT a symp.
SO therefore is a 3rd or 1st.

After that he asked how i know he isnt on his side, I ALLUDED to the fact that i know he is not to see what kind of reaction he would give.
I found it fascinating that he jumped right onto kaschan without thinking he could be on his side. I do hope that kaschan is in fact on his side. And would then love to see his reaction tonight (if we lynch him) for being wrong.

Poor kaschan is gonna take the brunt of my getting galains knickers all bunched up, but im not too worried as he aint one of my leaders

If you didn't know who you were supposed to be symping, why di you throw your vote on Kas, to prove you weren't symping him?

[Galain]

I also quoted him following kaschans vote.
Then I said symp.
Makes it fairly obvious, i'd say.

[Korlat]

Kaschan, on Feb 10 2009, 03:24 PM, said:

Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 04:22 PM, said:

So we should just ignore any slip ever on account of it being too stupid?
People do slip up stupidly sometimes.

"I know you're not on my team because Kaschan is not your leader" is more than a slip, it's a mental disease.

Anyways, lynch me, I don't care, just don't lynch Anomander or Tennes.

oops did I say that out loud??

"I know you're not on my team because Kaschan is not your leader"....these words never came out of my mouth.
Galain just jumped to this conclusion based on an ambiguous statement.

"for me to know and you to find out" means i am telling you fuckall. How can you jump to conclusions based on me telling you NOTHING. Thats what gets me about galain.
He seems VERY sure on zero evidence.

[Kaschan]

Korlat, on Feb 10 2009, 04:33 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Feb 10 2009, 03:24 PM, said:

Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 04:22 PM, said:

So we should just ignore any slip ever on account of it being too stupid?
People do slip up stupidly sometimes.

"I know you're not on my team because Kaschan is not your leader" is more than a slip, it's a mental disease.

Anyways, lynch me, I don't care, just don't lynch Anomander or Tennes.

oops did I say that out loud??

"I know you're not on my team because Kaschan is not your leader"....these words never came out of my mouth.
Galain just jumped to this conclusion based on an ambiguous statement.

"for me to know and you to find out" means i am telling you fuckall. How can you jump to conclusions based on me telling you NOTHING. Thats what gets me about galain.
He seems VERY sure on zero evidence.

You're telling me?

[Korlat]

Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 03:32 PM, said:

I also quoted him following kaschans vote.
Then I said symp.
Makes it fairly obvious, i'd say.

I voted you for saying we shouldnt care about game mechanics.
4 WHOLE minutes after kaschan....i didnt even know he fucking voted you, thats as close to a cross post as one can get.
Your own case shows this.

[Galain]

Well, I'm very sure he isn't my leader.

Also, your argument you were reaction fishing strikes me oddly.

Either I would attack kaschan, showing he wasn't my leader
Or I would not, and follow/defend him. Thus showing he is.

Why pick kaschan to test if he was my leader?

Why try to figure out who's on kaschans team?

[Galain]

Korlat, on Feb 10 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 03:32 PM, said:

I also quoted him following kaschans vote.
Then I said symp.
Makes it fairly obvious, i'd say.

I voted you for saying we shouldnt care about game mechanics.
4 WHOLE minutes after kaschan....i didnt even know he fucking voted you, thats as close to a cross post as one can get.
Your own case shows this.

4 minute cross post for 2 lines of writing?
And that was a joke vote, by the looks of it.
And then later you went on about "vote staying", which was when your vote turned serious.
Unless your saying your original vote of "screw game mechanics vote galain" was serious?

[Kaschan]

Just for the record, why would a symp follow his master on a vote?

I would be blown away if the leaders knew the names of all their blackmasks, so I fail to see what they would know that I don't. As for showing someone you're their symp, there's more subtle ways to do it.

[Galain]

Well, tbh, I feel this is just going around in circles.
Why would symp follow master? Because they're a symp. They wish to show master they are.
Just because more subtle ways exist, doesnt mean they would be employed.

Also his argument about reaction fishing made little sense.

But really, the case isn't massively convincing. I mean, its day one. But Korlats reaction afterwards, really did strike me as very suspicious.

If anyone has any other ideas or whatever, I'd be happy to hear them, because they move the game forwards, and getting tunnel-visioned early day one is not something i'd think of as a particularly good idea, which is, I realise, kind of what i'm doing.

This post has been edited by Galain: 10 February 2009 - 02:45 PM