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Posted 14 February 2009 - 08:08 PM
Well, I'm afraid its time for me to go. Gots stuff to do. I must say, I now know how it feels to live in a dead time zone. I don't think we've discussed anything of import since I've been on. Tragic. Oh well, lynch HP while I'm gone.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:05 PM
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:
The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist)
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The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist)
. The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:17 PM
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:
The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist)
. The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?
No but I was working under the assumption that Wind must have decided, yes let's go target ice before it's too late, hence the ice night death.
After all, he was agitating wind to attack ice. If he had failed to do that, then Wind leaders would have gone after him I guess and probably killed him if he was leader.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:24 PM
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:
The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist)
. The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?
Bold and Underline is mine. Are you implying you know Meanas is a first and hence can only be taken out by two Wind leaders?
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:25 PM
Hmmm, I thought I would do a quick reread on Serc. It wasn't really helpful though. But he certainly has shown some commitment to trying to get HP lynched, with a vote every day. I'm tempted to suggest that Serc might be a leader trying to let people show that they are on his side. I'm not sure there's anything actually behind that though.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:26 PM
D'riss, on Feb 14 2009, 09:24 PM, said:
Wind could have attacked a BM and nothing happened. It's extremely unlikely he actually is a leader.
Yeah, that's my second idea, and the more likely one I believe.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:29 PM
I find it quite weird that Hood's Path is still such a low poster despite the fact he's had trains on him for the last few days. Would have expected more posts from him defending himself.
Oh and could someone please remind me why HP has garnered suspicion? I don't see much myself of the case on him apart from some dodgy possible distancing.
Oh and could someone please remind me why HP has garnered suspicion? I don't see much myself of the case on him apart from some dodgy possible distancing.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:30 PM
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 08:40 PM, said:
So can anyone remind me why HP's seemingly on track to get himself lynched?
well, Day 2 it was his "distancing" from Fire.
not too sure what the case on him is now.
the fact that his day 2 lynch was so eagerly delayed when i made the Tennes case makes me think he MIGHT be leader material.
but mostly I just get the feeling that he's Ice, which is why I want to vote for him eventually.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:33 PM
Galayn Lord, on Feb 14 2009, 09:30 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 08:40 PM, said:
So can anyone remind me why HP's seemingly on track to get himself lynched?
well, Day 2 it was his "distancing" from Fire.
not too sure what the case on him is now.
the fact that his day 2 lynch was so eagerly delayed when i made the Tennes case makes me think he MIGHT be leader material.
but mostly I just get the feeling that he's Ice, which is why I want to vote for him eventually.
Why do you feel he is Ice, given that he was "distancing" from Fire?
Oh and so you are claiming Wind or Fire then?
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:33 PM
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 04:24 PM, said:
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:
The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist)
. The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?
Bold and Underline is mine. Are you implying you know Meanas is a first and hence can only be taken out by two Wind leaders?
If there are two leaders left, then the leaders can take down any other leader by acting together. In order for it to be possible for the leaders to be unable to do so, there would have to only be one left.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:35 PM
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:33 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 04:24 PM, said:
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:
The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist)
. The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?
Bold and Underline is mine. Are you implying you know Meanas is a first and hence can only be taken out by two Wind leaders?
If there are two leaders left, then the leaders can take down any other leader by acting together. In order for it to be possible for the leaders to be unable to do so, there would have to only be one left.
Erm if Meanas is a third then a Wind first would take him down....
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:38 PM
The general case on Hood's Path, as I see it, is that people have been trying to get him lynched for two days, but that both times it has failed. This would seem to imply that somewhere along the line there are some symps deflecting from him, and consequently that he is a leader. This reasoning makes sense to me, but before I cast any kind of vote I need to take the time and have a look through to try and find some hard evidence of symps at work. Unfortunately I don't have time right now, but at some point over the weekend it will get done.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:41 PM
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 09:33 PM, said:
Galayn Lord, on Feb 14 2009, 09:30 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 08:40 PM, said:
So can anyone remind me why HP's seemingly on track to get himself lynched?
well, Day 2 it was his "distancing" from Fire.
not too sure what the case on him is now.
the fact that his day 2 lynch was so eagerly delayed when i made the Tennes case makes me think he MIGHT be leader material.
but mostly I just get the feeling that he's Ice, which is why I want to vote for him eventually.
Why do you feel he is Ice, given that he was "distancing" from Fire?
Oh and so you are claiming Wind or Fire then?
I've said it a few times now, but the fact that I pointed out Emu's "slip", even if he keeps saying it doesn't mean anything, pretty much eliminates the possibility of me being in Ice, since why would I broadcast a supposed teammate reveal on thread then?
i'm not gonna reveal my faction, which is where my thinking HP's ice comes from.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:41 PM
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 04:35 PM, said:
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:33 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 04:24 PM, said:
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:
The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist)
. The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?
Bold and Underline is mine. Are you implying you know Meanas is a first and hence can only be taken out by two Wind leaders?
If there are two leaders left, then the leaders can take down any other leader by acting together. In order for it to be possible for the leaders to be unable to do so, there would have to only be one left.
Erm if Meanas is a third then a Wind first would take him down....
Certainly. But you're confusing my point - I wasn't saying that because Wind had only one leader they were unable to NK Meanas, but rather that from your implication that Wind were unable to NK Meanas, it followed that Wind must only have one leader.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:47 PM
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:41 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 04:35 PM, said:
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:33 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 04:24 PM, said:
Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:
Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:
The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist)
. The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.
Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?
Bold and Underline is mine. Are you implying you know Meanas is a first and hence can only be taken out by two Wind leaders?
If there are two leaders left, then the leaders can take down any other leader by acting together. In order for it to be possible for the leaders to be unable to do so, there would have to only be one left.
Erm if Meanas is a third then a Wind first would take him down....
Certainly. But you're confusing my point - I wasn't saying that because Wind had only one leader they were unable to NK Meanas, but rather that from your implication that Wind were unable to NK Meanas, it followed that Wind must only have one leader.
Firstly, given the quote started this was concerning Ice leaders, I have no idea how you are drawing conclusions on Wind leaders, unless you are subtly trying to signal something (can't work out what, too subtle for me
).Also, my implication was that Ice did not target him, hence the line " ice leaders did not decide to target him" not that they did and failed, I believe it's almost 100% certain that Ice would have been able to given it would have been pretty lucky that Thyrl decided to reveal herself and was a leader and they had not lost anyone else at that stage.
