[Kessobahn]

Never did I say it was about low posting, that was Mockra. Mine point was about you wanting to get rid of Galain and Korlat, which it seems you achieved.

[Mockra]

Kessobahn, on Feb 12 2009, 07:31 AM, said:

Never did I say it was about low posting, that was Mockra. Mine point was about you wanting to get rid of Galain and Korlat, which it seems you achieved.

I beg your pardon? I asked what his other posts were like! I didn't comment about how many there were.

[Serc]

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

Never did I say it was about low posting, that was Mockra. Mine point was about you wanting to get rid of Galain and Korlat, which it seems you achieved.

Uh, they were pretty obvious targets to everyone, just based on a high posting profile.

[Kessobahn]

Serc, on Feb 12 2009, 02:48 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

Never did I say it was about low posting, that was Mockra. Mine point was about you wanting to get rid of Galain and Korlat, which it seems you achieved.

Uh, they were pretty obvious targets to everyone, just based on a high posting profile.

Of course as a low poster it is easy to target high posters.

[Serc]

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:52 PM, said:

Serc, on Feb 12 2009, 02:48 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

Never did I say it was about low posting, that was Mockra. Mine point was about you wanting to get rid of Galain and Korlat, which it seems you achieved.

Uh, they were pretty obvious targets to everyone, just based on a high posting profile.

Of course as a low poster it is easy to target high posters.

... wait, what?

Everyone was a low poster compared to Galain. And Korlat wasn't all that far behind.

So, yeah. I'm not sure what we're disagreeing about here.

[Kessobahn]

Its easy for you to say "lets get rid of the high posters" when you are not one yourself. To put something like that out there with reasoning of just to cut down on the posts seems to be you contributing nothing but posting enough to not be suspicious. For all you knew they could have been of your team yet you wished to get rid of them anyway...

[Kessobahn]

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[Mockra]

I'm still here. Nothing to say though.

[Serc]

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 11:39 PM, said:

Its easy for you to say "lets get rid of the high posters" when you are not one yourself. To put something like that out there with reasoning of just to cut down on the posts seems to be you contributing nothing but posting enough to not be suspicious. For all you knew they could have been of your team yet you wished to get rid of them anyway...

I was being facile about getting rid of them. I pretty much express the same desire in a lot of games where there's heavy Day 1 spam, and this was worse than usual.

Kaschan was already pretty much on his way out, Galain was a close runner-up to being lynched (it could easily have gone either way), and Korlat had a high-profile, making them a prominent target. Trying to attribute their deaths to me is ... stretching. Painfully.

[Telas]

I am here too, just caught up, but I'm supposed to be working so I cant post much.

HP is interesting, he stood out a little yesterday, but couldn't put my finger on why. Although I'll wait for him to return before I place a vote. I'd think Serc's statement is more than likely coincidence - a large of people were annoyed at galain (and korlat to a lesser extent) so I wasnt suprised when the came up as dead this morning.

[Serc]

Anyways, I'm off for the night.

Things are looking pretty sluggish, and only HP's brief flurry of attention-getting has seemed worthy of, uh, attention.

[Silanah]

I was surprised that only they came up dead though. Noone predicted as low as 2 people dying.

It makes me think that higher ups targeted black masks, and black masks refrained from killing.

2 seems awfully low when you consider how many actions had to come in.

Did people maybe not send in provisionals or something and get caught out by the length of the night?

[Silanah]

I guess another possibility could be that everyone was so fed up with those two that lots of people tried to kill them.

[Telas]

Silanah, on Feb 12 2009, 09:54 AM, said:

I was surprised that only they came up dead though. Noone predicted as low as 2 people dying.

It makes me think that higher ups targeted black masks, and black masks refrained from killing.

2 seems awfully low when you consider how many actions had to come in.

Did people maybe not send in provisionals or something and get caught out by the length of the night?

A lot of people stated they didn't put in NAs. Could be misdirection, but it's likely a lot of BMs are too scared to try attack someone. I was a little surprised that so few people died. It's likely the higher ranked players all hit blackmasks, or everyone went for galain and korlat. Since we dont get rank in the CF, it's very difficult to analyse what happened.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 2, you have 22 hours remaining (sort of)

21 players remain, 11 to lynch or goto night.

4 votes for hp (emurlahn, tennes, serc, meanas)
1 vote for emurlahn (telas)

16 players aint voted yet.

[Telas]

Path-Shaper, on Feb 12 2009, 10:42 AM, said:

It is day 2, you have 22 hours remaining (sort of)

21 players remain, 11 to lynch or goto night.

4 votes for hp (emurlahn, tennes, serc, meanas)
1 vote for emurlahn (telas)

16 players aint voted yet.

whoops

remove vote

forgot I did that.

[Hood's Path]

Silanah, on Feb 11 2009, 11:41 PM, said:

Hmmm. I've noticed people are voting Hood's Path for distancing from Fire, but what strikes me as more voteworthy is his claim that he targeted Galain and that it needed someone else to finish him off (essentially another BM claim). I think someone upthread already pointed out that claiming BM is more likely to be done by someone in a higher position than an actual BM due to it making you an easy target for sevenths and other BM if true.

I'm not sure it's worth my vote yet though.

OK, so let me get this straight...People think I was 'distancing from Fire' and that I'm actually on team Fire...maybe I haven't made myself clear - Emur posted something like 'shall we finish off team fire?' so I immediately thought that he is basically saying he's not on team Fire and is that important? Like I said, maybe I should have thought about it a bit more but I thought I would do the same and enjoy the moment. I also called for the deaths to happen as they did, didn't notice that Serc had done so. Serc's not my leader so it was coincidental.

Regarding openly targeting Galain. I just decided to do it. In the event that I didn't survive, people would know what I had been trying to do and might get some useful info from that. Obviously I was gambling that Galain was in fact a BM and that at least one other would target him. I actually went back and forth between Korlat and galain as targets before settling on Galain. My reasons for believing them safe targets are documented in yesterday's discussion and it played out just as I predicted, which freaked me out a little, tbh The uncertainty regarding whether or not Galain saw the same rules I did made me less certain of my reasoning but his posts immediately after night fell made me want to call his bluff so I went for it. Result!

And, Silanah, it was me that said that claiming BM is more likely to be done by someone who is in fact higher-ranked. That's how I felt yesterday anyway. I don't have a lot of experience with merc games but it seems everybody at some point will have to 'claim' BM either directly or indirectly in this environment. To reiterate the point, it was to do with believeability. I'd like to think a BM would think twice before targeting me, even now, whereas Korlat was really believable and I was reasonably sure of Galain due to his total disregard for the mechanics. I pictured this guy looking at his role PM and thinking 'ok, so basically a symp - Great!' and off he went. Not great reasoning but it worked out alright in the end


I won't be around for most of today (RL day) but I'll contribute as much as possible and I'm happy to defend myself if need be. Someone come up with a case against me soon and I should be able to respond before I have to go. Otherwise it'll be a few hours.

[Mockra]

And now I'm off to sleep again. The game has really slowed down with all those high-posters gone. Ah well.

I'll be back on same time tomorrow as I was today.

Night all.

[Tennes]

Hood's Path, on Feb 12 2009, 08:55 AM, said:

OK, so let me get this straight...People think I was 'distancing from Fire' and that I'm actually on team Fire...maybe I haven't made myself clear - Emur posted something like 'shall we finish off team fire?' so I immediately thought that he is basically saying he's not on team Fire and is that important? Like I said, maybe I should have thought about it a bit more but I thought I would do the same and enjoy the moment. I also called for the deaths to happen as they did, didn't notice that Serc had done so. Serc's not my leader so it was coincidental.

Regarding openly targeting Galain. I just decided to do it. In the event that I didn't survive, people would know what I had been trying to do and might get some useful info from that. Obviously I was gambling that Galain was in fact a BM and that at least one other would target him. I actually went back and forth between Korlat and galain as targets before settling on Galain. My reasons for believing them safe targets are documented in yesterday's discussion and it played out just as I predicted, which freaked me out a little, tbh The uncertainty regarding whether or not Galain saw the same rules I did made me less certain of my reasoning but his posts immediately after night fell made me want to call his bluff so I went for it. Result!

And, Silanah, it was me that said that claiming BM is more likely to be done by someone who is in fact higher-ranked. That's how I felt yesterday anyway. I don't have a lot of experience with merc games but it seems everybody at some point will have to 'claim' BM either directly or indirectly in this environment. To reiterate the point, it was to do with believeability. I'd like to think a BM would think twice before targeting me, even now, whereas Korlat was really believable and I was reasonably sure of Galain due to his total disregard for the mechanics. I pictured this guy looking at his role PM and thinking 'ok, so basically a symp - Great!' and off he went. Not great reasoning but it worked out alright in the end


I won't be around for most of today (RL day) but I'll contribute as much as possible and I'm happy to defend myself if need be. Someone come up with a case against me soon and I should be able to respond before I have to go. Otherwise it'll be a few hours.

So.....

You said that claiming BM was suspicious and then claimed BM yourself?

[Tennes]

Kessobahn, on Feb 12 2009, 05:44 AM, said:

Serc, on Feb 11 2009, 12:42 PM, said:

My eyes hurt from reading all this, and I have real-life stuff to attend to.

I'm thinking it'd be nice to get rid of Korlat, Kaschan, and Galain, just to cut down on the amount of posts, but I'm probably a bit biased from having so little time to play today.

Anyways, off to clear more snow ...

(My vote stands, of course)

After my re-read I came across this
Anybody else find this a little suspicious?
I think he has a total of 8 posts in the game, seems to be a leader in hiding to me.

That's one hell of a catch on Serc, Kesso. I have a hard time believing it coincidence. The three people Serc wanted dead are the three people who havedied so far.