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Right, I'm back, seems like the same old stuff is being discussed - so on a completely different note:
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:18 PM
Telas, on Feb 11 2009, 10:14 AM, said:
Right, I'm back, seems like the same old stuff is being discussed - so on a completely different note:
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
Not so. A 1st and 3rd targetting a 7th don't get a kill. The 1st acts first and since a 7th is two ranks below him the 7th is guarded
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:34 PM
Hood's Path, on Feb 11 2009, 06:18 PM, said:
Telas, on Feb 11 2009, 10:14 AM, said:
Right, I'm back, seems like the same old stuff is being discussed - so on a completely different note:
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
Not so. A 1st and 3rd targetting a 7th don't get a kill. The 1st acts first and since a 7th is two ranks below him the 7th is guarded
Awh, misinterpreted that. Hehe, that makes things even more sticky.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:39 PM
Telas, on Feb 11 2009, 06:34 PM, said:
Hood's Path, on Feb 11 2009, 06:18 PM, said:
Telas, on Feb 11 2009, 10:14 AM, said:
Right, I'm back, seems like the same old stuff is being discussed - so on a completely different note:
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
Not so. A 1st and 3rd targetting a 7th don't get a kill. The 1st acts first and since a 7th is two ranks below him the 7th is guarded
Awh, misinterpreted that. Hehe, that makes things even more sticky.
It's still very useful though, being able to find other firsts and thirds. Once you find one, you gain a large advantage.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:42 PM
My eyes hurt from reading all this, and I have real-life stuff to attend to.
I'm thinking it'd be nice to get rid of Korlat, Kaschan, and Galain, just to cut down on the amount of posts, but I'm probably a bit biased from having so little time to play today.
Anyways, off to clear more snow ...
(My vote stands, of course)
I'm thinking it'd be nice to get rid of Korlat, Kaschan, and Galain, just to cut down on the amount of posts, but I'm probably a bit biased from having so little time to play today.
Anyways, off to clear more snow ...
(My vote stands, of course)
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:44 PM
Silanah, on Feb 11 2009, 06:39 PM, said:
Telas, on Feb 11 2009, 06:34 PM, said:
Hood's Path, on Feb 11 2009, 06:18 PM, said:
Telas, on Feb 11 2009, 10:14 AM, said:
Right, I'm back, seems like the same old stuff is being discussed - so on a completely different note:
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
Someone was talking earlier about how the firsts arent that important as the only give their team someone to band around, so for a 1st to get himself lynched on day on is ok cos it shows the rest of his team who is who. This was the prevailing sentiment in 31, but I dont think it really applies here.
The 1st and 3rd can communicate off thread, so it's obviously expected that they will target the same person, since they will be guaranteed a kill if they target a 1st, 3rd or 7th. It's pretty important that they stick around, since they're the most effective way of dealing with the higher ranked players. They would also act kinda like a finder, since if they target someone and he doesnt die, they know he's obviously a blackmask.
It's a pretty interesting mechanic, since the majority of the players are therefore safe from the higher rank players at night. The main danger is that they accidentally target a higher ranked player. They are really the ones who have to do most of the work, since only they (and the three 7ths) are in charge of taking out the other grunts. I can see why DiBs suggested everyone target someone, since managing to kill just two or three blackmasks from a team could cripple them.
Not so. A 1st and 3rd targetting a 7th don't get a kill. The 1st acts first and since a 7th is two ranks below him the 7th is guarded
Awh, misinterpreted that. Hehe, that makes things even more sticky.
It's still very useful though, being able to find other firsts and thirds. Once you find one, you gain a large advantage.
Well, they will be dead
And if they dont die you know they're 7th/blackmask. Gonna be interesting to see how the 1st and 3rds try communicate that to the grunts.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 05:10 PM
So, we've got someone sitting on L-1 and noone willing to hammer him. Seems like we've reached a standstill in the discussion too. I'm afraid I must inform you that I'm probably going to be gone for a fair while after this. I have a shit load of work to get done this afternoon, so the chances are I'm not going to be able to keep up, and I'm not going to be able to play from home either. I'll try and drop in and see what's going on before I leave work (hopefully a decision will have been reached by then), but I can't promise anything.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 05:11 PM
well. 6 people, and no chatter in 25 minutes. What is that, some kind of record? Or am I stuck in a temporal anomaly?
Fugging crosspost.
Fugging crosspost.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 05:15 PM
Telas, on Feb 11 2009, 12:11 PM, said:
I suppose I could hammer - I said before I dont mind lynching either. Dont really see the point of doing it before DiBs comes back though...
the point was, as soon as DiBs gets here, we'll know the score, where we stand, and we have a new point of reference. As he said before he left, we treat this as night, and we start voting again in 1 hour. For me, that's 1:12 PM. Of course, we won't have anyone to vote for until he gets back, but at least he can get the ball rolling as soon as he returns.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 05:18 PM
Liosan, on Feb 11 2009, 07:13 PM, said:
whats the point in waiting though? we're not going anywhere while we wait for this lynch from what i can see.
Just giving DiBs some time to sort through the NAs - an hour night isnt that long & he'll have to do it in a rush if night times out while he's gone. Suppose it doesnt really matter though
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 05:19 PM
Emurlahn, on Feb 11 2009, 07:15 PM, said:
Telas, on Feb 11 2009, 12:11 PM, said:
I suppose I could hammer - I said before I dont mind lynching either. Dont really see the point of doing it before DiBs comes back though...
the point was, as soon as DiBs gets here, we'll know the score, where we stand, and we have a new point of reference. As he said before he left, we treat this as night, and we start voting again in 1 hour. For me, that's 1:12 PM. Of course, we won't have anyone to vote for until he gets back, but at least he can get the ball rolling as soon as he returns.
Hehe, and have all the cases rudely interrupted when half the players are taken out by the morning scene
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 05:21 PM
So that's done. I was close to hammering myself just to get things moving. I hope he wasn't one of mine. With the short night we also get to see the fallout from a whole bunch of Seguleh on Seguleh action.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 05:23 PM
Silanah, on Feb 11 2009, 07:21 PM, said:
So that's done. I was close to hammering myself just to get things moving. I hope he wasn't one of mine. With the short night we also get to see the fallout from a whole bunch of Seguleh on Seguleh action.
Yeah I'm looking forward to the whole short night thing. Being able to find out the consequences of your actions so soon is nice.
