[muco]

I am confused about the Jaghut war against death.

I was of the opinion that Hood sort of lead this war against death and won it. Then all the gods got together and had a deal with Hood. I mean Draconus is very upset to see hood inside Draginpur saying that he sort of betrayed the trust of all the gods.

Am I wrong in my thinking here or did something else happen?

[blackzoid]

muco, on Feb 20 2009, 11:44 AM, said:

I am confused about the Jaghut war against death.

I was of the opinion that Hood sort of lead this war against death and won it. Then all the gods got together and had a deal with Hood. I mean Draconus is very upset to see hood inside Draginpur saying that he sort of betrayed the trust of all the gods.

Am I wrong in my thinking here or did something else happen?

Seems right to me. Don't imagine that the gods made a deal with Hood ,maybe just the Elder Gods.
But other than that, I imagine it went down like you say.

[beru]

i think the jhaguts wan the war thne the gods put hood on the throne and he had to swere or somthing to the elder gods

[Ain't_It_Just_]

I was under the impression the war is still underway.

[Trull's son]

Going back a while into the series, in Shaiik's camp, when Kalam and Cotillion go apeshit on their attackers in Bidithal's hovel. The crazy guy who witnessed it became even more insane, definitely something epic had taken place.

[Mushroom]

"The battle of Kartool, which had seen an exchange of sorcery that made Moon's Spawn look like a child's cantrip"

Which included the Bonecaster Olar Ethil, who in Soletaken form is larger than Rake as a Dragon.

[Ain't_It_Just_]

Mushroom, on Feb 23 2009, 06:16 PM, said:

"The battle of Kartool, which had seen an exchange of sorcery that made Moon's Spawn look like a child's cantrip"

Which included the Bonecaster Olar Ethil, who in Soletaken form is larger than Rake as a Dragon.

That's the one I was looking for! Damn, that'd be something to see.

Wish I'd seen more of that battle where Kallor lost his horse, Vaderon. Sounded like just about everybody was there-FA, Jheck, etc.

[Abyss]

Mulch, on Feb 9 2009, 10:10 AM, said:

Blow by blow, the clash wasn't narrated, just the aftermath. 12 dead claws, Topper, Surly and Possum are carrying injuries and Dancer appears later at the deadhouse covered in blood. The fight is alluded to but not described.

blackzoid, on Feb 9 2009, 10:15 AM, said:

I preferred that way of relating the fight. None of the POV characters were in that room, so why should we see it?
I loved the image of Kellevand's tapping his cane as he paced back and forth in the room above Tay/Kiska's heads.

So I can't agree with you there I'm afraid. That scene was handled superbly in my opinion.

I go back and forth on this - on the one hand, the way ICE writes a fight scene, yeah, it would have been great, but the way it was done, in my head, it will always be great.

Sinisdar Toste, on Feb 9 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

...
also it would be cool to know what kind of power the errant used to kill all those FA
...

We don't actually know that he did. Silch killed a bunch, but while we know the Errant and his worshippers came into conflict with the FA, we don't actually know what happened or whether it had anything to do with the extinction, especially since logistically, by the time of the FE when the Errant/FA conflict would have happened, Silch would have already wiped out most of the FA - obviously not all, but lots.

Seguleh 1st, on Feb 10 2009, 11:42 AM, said:

i think you are all forgetting the most famous clash that is not narrated.
Rake vs. Draconus
thats what i'd like to see
...

Again, yes, but in my head it's AWESOME.

Ain't_It_Just_, on Feb 20 2009, 06:02 AM, said:

I wanted to see the Wickan Wars. See even more of Coltaine the Awesome.

Maybe, but how can it compare to DG. Anyhow, he was back in charge in RCG, albeit in diapers.

blackzoid, on Feb 20 2009, 06:52 AM, said:

...
Also a flashback battle of the KCCM civil war, Short-tails versus Longtails.

Seriously.

muco, on Feb 20 2009, 11:44 AM, said:

I am confused about the Jaghut war against death.

I was of the opinion that Hood sort of lead this war against death and won it. Then all the gods got together and had a deal with Hood. I mean Draconus is very upset to see hood inside Draginpur saying that he sort of betrayed the trust of all the gods.

Am I wrong in my thinking here or did something else happen?

The way it was described i understood that the Jaghut were essentially destroyed as a race because of the war, and it ended with Hood ascending to a 'custodian' position, basically correcting the problem - the lack of an afterlife - that the Jaghut had gone to war over.

So they lost but won, or won but lost, so to speak.

Ain't_It_Just_, on Feb 22 2009, 05:06 AM, said:

I was under the impression the war is still underway.

Do you mean the Jaghut v FA conflict Brood suggests to Endest is still going on on Assail?

As for moi, i want to see that Edur sea battle that spilled into the Nascent.

- Abyss, prefers cajun catfish.

[End of Disc One]

blackzoid, on Feb 9 2009, 09:46 AM, said:

Benji, on Feb 9 2009, 02:33 PM, said:

And wasn't that pretty much the only clash we didn't see?

Silchas Ruin taking apart the TTT Gods wasn't given a blow by blow account either, but that one wasn't as important really.

Wasn't it just stab stab stab, three dead TTT?

[Aptorian]

Stab stab EXPLOSION stabbitty stab stab slash hack explosion stab.

I think it was over in less than a minute.

[Abyss]

Don't forget Harlest chewing on one's leg and the Ublala's triumphant head trauma!!!

- Abyss, loves that scene.

[amphibian]

How did Uther Doul crucify the Brucolac?

Oh wait... the Malazan books. You guys seem to have that taken care of, so I'll just toodle off here.

[Ectemnius]

In recent times:

The campaigns of Greymane are often told about with great awe. I'd like to see one of those battles.

Of the ancient times:

The Forkul Assail fought wars against the Jaghut. Would be cool to see an account of one of those 'meetings'.

Also the civil wars of the K'Chain Che'malle against their short-tailed siblings the Nah'ruk

[Lister of Smeg]

I'd like to see some scenes from the Just Wars, see how the Liosan fared against the FA. There must have been some mean fights between them.

Als,o seeing the Perish humbling the Edur fleets would have been fun.

[Theotendo]

Rake carving his way through a few Seguleh on his visit to their island. Juicy.

[masan's saddle]

I would like to know what happened between Skinner and the 2nd, we may well find out.

Generally though i want more info about the "lesser" used characters ( FA, Liosan, Perish, Shal Morzinn etc)

Just how do the FA roll ? Weapons, warrens, magics... we know they are fast and are mustard in a punch up ( Calm gave Karsa and his pal a right pasting) and that Ruin fought them (swords ?).

I just hope we get more in the next books, I want more FA dust ups, more I tell you !!! :broody:

[clanless]

Tlan Imass against all those first empire soletaken and D'ivers.......that was probably the craziest thing ever.

[Fist Gamet]

For me it would be mostly the earlier battles I would want to read about. Mott Wood, the Wickan Wars, the original invasion of Korrel and so on. Come to think of it, some kind of prequel telling the story of the rise of the Empire from the first days of Kellanved on Malaz Island through to, basically, Pale, would be terrific!

[WhiskeyJackDaniels]

Kellanved vs. Treach and Ryllandaras outside Li Heng probably would have been pretty cool. Fiddler mentions it to Kimloc in DG

[T'renn]

Battle for Mock's Hold

Kelanved & fam. VS Mock and maties