[Path-Shaper]

it would appear no-one expected a quick night, since none of the alive people are in thread right now,

-ment

[Sir Thursday]

I assume that another lynch and NK is required before the killers win, yes? On account of Rashan's double vote...

Or do the killers not win until HP has used her Day Vig?



Sir Thursday

[Path-Shaper]

Welcome, Grief... as you may see, we were all way off on everything

all our hopes rest on TB right now....

[Grief]

Well played killers there.
Was starting to suspect Liosan for being under the radar, and meanas could come under quite a bit of pressure.

[Path-Shaper]

Sir Thursday, on Jan 31 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

I assume that another lynch and NK is required before the killers win, yes? On account of Rashan's double vote...

Or do the killers not win until HP has used her Day Vig?



Sir Thursday

Scum wins when their numbers equal those of town

so, one more lynch and NK, and if both scum live, they win

ofc they CAN just force night right now, and then do it again and win.
but they have to think of that first.

[Stalker]

If Dibs doesn't go and reveal and NKs HP they should win.

He won't kill meanas or Omtose since he thinks they are symps so it is a throw up for NK b/w Ruse and HP. Rashan should be lynch though.

This post has been edited by Stalker: 31 January 2009 - 09:01 PM

[Grief]

Aye, and I can see her vigging Rashan.
I don't think anyone suspects them highly, well, rashan suspects meanas, and people are getting a bit weary of liosan, but nothing major.

[Jump Around]

Technically, you stop the game when the killers have have the voting power left, so in this case I believe it's a psycho win.

But there's the day-vig in this case, so I don't know what to do.

For sure if they lynch someone else than Meanas/Liosan, it's game over no matter what.

[Path-Shaper]

Grief, on Jan 31 2009, 09:59 PM, said:

Well played killers there.
Was starting to suspect Liosan for being under the radar, and meanas could come under quite a bit of pressure.

I think they're out of time
DiBs can either push for a tapper lynch for his Day 1 antics, or speedlynch Bent who said he's gone for 20 hours for that hammer.
and DKT's hopelessly wrong and is looking exclusively at innos, so he's no help.

[Path-Shaper]

I just hope TB realizes that she has to use her vig today.... because it's do or die now.

-ment

[Jump Around]

I like how there's 5 of us spoilees reading the game thread. They must realize things are getting to a close

[Path-Shaper]

ha, lol

there's just TB in there right now, and all us dead folk...

[Giles]

I so want DiBs to think he has the numbers to push a night vote, then get vigged by HP when he tries to reveal

[Path-Shaper]

lol, I taunted Venge a bit.. and now he comes back not happy at all

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One more vote on D'riss and I am going to hammer him. At this point I don't care what it looks like.

Although I might try to swing the lynch over to Benrash seeing as I don't know if Liosan has picked up on my bloody obvious hints...sigh...

your maths appear to be off a bit...

The reason is that dibs/liosan is daft and took out grief rather then BENFUCKINGRASH.....Sweet jesus. When this game is over I am going to sit down with him and let him know that if your fucking symp makes a case on someone then by god take them fucking out. ESPECIALLY IF I MAKE A CASE AND THEN SAY 2 FUCKING VOTERS. This game should be over right now....clam down vengeance....calm down...

All it takes is to lynch Rashan and then that is it.

[Sir Thursday]

I was hoping for something like that too. If Meanas were to agree to go to night, and then HP said she wanted to vig Liosan during the night, what would happen?


Sir Thursday


EDIT: @Baudin

This post has been edited by Sir Thursday: 31 January 2009 - 09:22 PM

[Path-Shaper]

I could SO see TB vigging Meanas right now...

[Path-Shaper]

Sir Thursday, on Jan 31 2009, 09:21 PM, said:

I was hoping for something like that too. If Meanas were to agree to go to night, and then HP said she wanted to vig Liosan during the night, what would happen?


Sir Thursday


EDIT: @Baudin

her vig ONLY works during the day

[Path-Shaper]

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One more vote on D'riss and I am going to hammer him. At this point I don't care what it looks like.

Although I might try to swing the lynch over to Benrash seeing as I don't know if Liosan has picked up on my bloody obvious hints...sigh...

your maths appear to be off a bit...

Ok I am going to give it some more time and then come back and vote for Rashan. It ends tonight anyway. As long as me and Liosan live through the day then we are golden.

moe venge..

[Path-Shaper]

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any thoughts on the game you'd like to share with the spoilered folk?

Well I am still back and forth between loving and hating mafia! Here's my thoughts as a noob on Mafia!

I'll give you my negatives first:

I find it hard to keep track of everything! There seem to be alot of little things the experienced players expect everyone to magically know right off the bat.

I'm not sure it's the kindest game for noobs, especially if you're sensitive. I know this particular game is supposed to be noob friendly, and many people have been understanding. There are others though, who seem pretty disdainful of noobs or what they perceive to be noob behaviour. I know for myself if I played again, I wouldn't be able to handle a game that was not noob friendly at this point. I'm a very polite person in RL so someone calling me a fucking idiot, a cunt or fucking stupid even in a game format is really difficult to deal with. For example when Silanah went off on me for my case, I was stunned! I was about ready to throw in the towel at that point and not post anymore so I could be mod killed! I've never had anyone speak to me like that in a RL or game situation! It's not the swearing it's the vehemence behind it! There has been alot of criticism of low posters or inactivity during the course of the game. The people who play regularly should be aware that noobs are probably not posting in some cases because they're worried about making a mistake and being crucified for it. It takes a littlt time and observation just for us to figure things out! The overall environment does not encourage someone who is tentative or unsure to get more involved.

I think I've had a hard time with things because of the lack of CF. It makes it impossible for me to tell whether the theories or thought processes I'm going on are right. This in turn makes it hard to learn the ins and outs of the game.

I also was unaware of how much time the game requires or how much involvement was expected on the parts of people playing. This is something that should maybe be made clear to new players. I know Sparky felt the same way when he tried playing Mafia. It has been extremely hard for me to keep involved as I'm mostly catching up and trying to post in the five minutes I have between seeing patients at work. Had I known this beforehand I may not have played.

The positives:

Mafia is a really neat game! I like reading through and trying to figure out what's going on. Developing theories and trying to come up with a case takes effort but it's worth it. Thankfully a few people have been very understanding and tolerant of the mistakes I've made throughout the course of the game! I did actually Alt guess quite a few people pretty quickly! Lish may have known who I was right away, but I also knew it was him! The people I have regular involvement with outside of Mafia were fairly easy to spot!

It seems like the only way to properly get to know this game is to jump in and go for it! I will probably play another game of Mafia at some point, the whole thing is really addictive! I've been completely confused at times and unsure what to do, but it is amazing to see how the regular players work through things and develop cases with very little to go on. It would have to be a noob friendly game again, as I'm not confident enough to play with the regulars in a normal game at this point.

The mods have been extremely helpful in answering any questions I have had and making me feel comfortable. It's taken the whole game but I think I have all of the abbreviations and what not figured out. So thanks very much guys for your patientcence!

I feel like I've been dragged through hell at some points but overall an enjoyable experience! You guys have got me hooked! So thanks very much guys!

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next out should be ruse.

i asusme i have all necros dead and most roles, obviously meanas is the double voter but he is following my thoughts so...

clearly i either started with one symp or have offed one, possibly serc or ano, probbaly ano

[Stalker]

Too bad TB didn't give us her suspicions. However on thread she lists Rashan and Omtose as her two people for bad.
She needs to vig one NOW, so the game ends. And I do a victory dance with Dibs and Venge.