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Posted 22 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

Here is the first interview with Jenna about the new role.

Gods she's cute as hell!


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Posted 22 March 2012 - 01:47 PM

She's adorable.
I think it's that little grin she has after he asks every question that does it. :p



She's in the new Titanic miniseries that starts on ITV this Sunday, I imagine that announcement's boosted the viewership a little (I believe it's on ABC in the US and Global in Canada but I don't know about airdates there).

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:19 PM

Wont be the same without Amys miniskirt :w00t:
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:31 PM

View PostMessremb, on 22 March 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

Wont be the same without Amys miniskirt :w00t:



I dunno. As much as I thought Karen Gillan was hot before she was on the show and I saw pics of her...when I actually saw her in action and as the show went on I simply found her "meh" overall.

As far as character depth Arthur Darvill as Rory has her beat in spades.

I guess she's the equivalent of Martha for me. Not as good as Rose and certainly not as good as Donna.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:58 PM

She's a better actress than Freema Agyeman to be fair. Not as good as Billie Piper or Catherine Tate (both of which came as a surprise given their previous reputations...) but at least they didn't have to very clearly write the show around her having to portray any emotion the way they were obviously doing with Martha.



Also, her legs.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 03:58 PM

View Postpolishgenius, on 22 March 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

She's a better actress than Freema Agyeman to be fair. Not as good as Billie Piper or Catherine Tate (both of which came as a surprise given their previous reputations...) but at least they didn't have to very clearly write the show around her having to portray any emotion the way they were obviously doing with Martha.



Also, her legs.


Very true, and I think Martha was one of RTD's only real stumbles during his tenure.
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 10:26 PM

Posted this on the pics thread too, but what the hey:

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:31 PM

Teaser trailer for Series 7 (at least the first ep and a few more) is up folks. Looks coolio! Love the Dalek in the snow.


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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:22 AM

I'm pretty far behind the rest of you - working through the DVDs and currently just got the last three episodes of Season 3 to watch.

I did notice that my favourite episode from each season so far has been the one written by Moffat - Empty Child (and follow-up), Girl in the Fireplace & Blink.

He seems to have a few constant qualities - he makes genuinely creepy episodes, he's the only one who has played around with Time Travel in a really interesting way (both GitF and Blink) and he seems to be able to write other characters in for a single episode and make them good.

He also tends to make the happier endings, bizarrely. Blink was probably the most chilling episode I've seen, yet the only really bad stuff that happened was two people had to live in the past but both managed happy lives anyway.

Oh, and my little nephew saw Blink when he was about 6, and had nightmares for months.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:49 AM

Perhaps my favourite thing about Blink is the montage at the end included for no reason at all except to give kids a phobia of statues.



Is that an actual Dalek in the snow? I mean it's obviously one of their eye-stalks but have we seen them bend like that before? Fun trailer, though personally I'm waiting for one where they've filmed more than two and a bit episodes to make it with. :wine:
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:35 PM

View PostKanubis, on 27 March 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

I'm pretty far behind the rest of you - working through the DVDs and currently just got the last three episodes of Season 3 to watch.

I did notice that my favourite episode from each season so far has been the one written by Moffat - Empty Child (and follow-up), Girl in the Fireplace & Blink.

He seems to have a few constant qualities - he makes genuinely creepy episodes, he's the only one who has played around with Time Travel in a really interesting way (both GitF and Blink) and he seems to be able to write other characters in for a single episode and make them good.

He also tends to make the happier endings, bizarrely. Blink was probably the most chilling episode I've seen, yet the only really bad stuff that happened was two people had to live in the past but both managed happy lives anyway.

Oh, and my little nephew saw Blink when he was about 6, and had nightmares for months.


I've spoken about this at length, but Moffat's skills while he was penning one or two eps a season under another showrunner (RTD) he was unmatched. The is heavily in evidence even in his SHERLOCK episodes...where the stories are flat out amazing...

...but as the showrunner (a job he took after RTD left the show), Series 5 is decent enough, but Series 6 is the weakest the show has been since coming back in 2005. He's good, but not great when he's spread too thin like this. I miss the GitF, Blink days...though you should note that you have THE SILENCE IN THE LIBRARY & THE FOREST OF THE DEAD ahead of you still, those were Moffat's final episodes under RTD tenure and they are absolutely amazing...so look fwd to that. Just don't be expecting gold once Moffat took over as showrunner, as the best he's given us so far in Series 5 & 6 is silver, and mostly bronze.

@PG, yes, that's a Dalek in the snow. The first ep of Series 7 is Dalek's on a snowbound world.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:24 PM

Cool.

I'm not too sure about seeing the Daleks yet again but hopefully it'll be alright.

Series 6 is a weird season: I thought the best bits of it were as good as any in New Who so far- specifically, Neil Gaiman's episode and The Girl Who Waited - but the overall arc is far too hectic, it's two seasons worth of material at least, and thus becomes truncated and rushed. Not helped by an odd choice of episodes to make two-part -why the Flesh one was two episodes and the series finale was just one I have no idea). I still enjoyed the arc episodes in the first half of the season a lot though.

Series 5 didn't have the highest highs but I probably enjoyed it most of all the seasons on average and if the Flesh and Stone had lived up to the first part of the story it could have beaten the Empty Child two-parter as my favourite story of the series so far.

I'm hopeful that the supposed commitment to stand-alone stories for this season allows Moffat to get back to what he does best. I'm not stunningly enthused by the writers announced so far though; Whithouse is okay, he did do School Reunion, but Vampires in Venice was average and The God Complex quite dull, and I've been unimpressed by the Who contributions of Chris Chibnall (42, the Hungry Earth two-parter) and Mark Gattiss (The Unquiet Dead, The Idiot's Lantern, Victory of the Daleks and Night Terrors) to date though. Mind you, the guy who wrote The Girl Who Waited also wrote Fear Her, so you never know.
And I am hopeful of John Fay - he's new to Who but worked on Children of Earth (and also one episode of Miracle Day, but I'll let it slide :wine: ).
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:55 PM

View Postpolishgenius, on 27 March 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

Cool. I'm not too sure about seeing the Daleks yet again but hopefully it'll be alright.


You had better prepare yourself, we WILL be seeing the "ruins of Skaro" at some point and you can be very sure that the 50th Anniversary episodes will deal with time war dalek stuff as well. I think it would be safe to call the forthcoming season Dalek-heavy simply by the nature of it being the 50th anniversary and they are the Doctor's oldest enemies.

And I like the Daleks personally.

And anything will be better than a THIRD season about the Silence. Everyone claims that the Daleks and Cybermen are overused...meanwhile the Silence have been the main villains for both Series 5 and 6 so far, and their story isn't done yet...but I am TIRED of them.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 04:18 PM

The Silence were cool in small doses, but yeah I'm tired of them too.

I'm not a huge fan of the Daleks either, but if they get more into their origins and context and flesh them out, I'd be cool with that.

They really need to figure out a way to bring back John Simm's Master. Which I think was hinted at somewhere...
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:09 PM

I like the Daleks, I just think they've appeared too many times, sometimes in very bad episodes (Daleks in Manhattan) or pointless cameos (The season 5 finale). Their motivation is 'space nazis that hate everything', which can only go so far: therefore they rely mostly on menace and that gets diluted the more they're defeated.

I think you're a bit harsh on the amount the Silence are used (plus, can I suggest spoiler tagging that part about season 5, as it's a spoiler for Kanubis when he catches up).

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I can see the 50th anniversary being what they save the whole Trenzelor thing for.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:15 PM

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I can see the 50th anniversary being what they save the whole Trenzelor thing for.


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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:48 PM

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:37 AM

View Postpolishgenius, on 27 March 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:


I think you're a bit harsh on the amount the Silence are used (plus, can I suggest spoiler tagging that part about season 5, as it's a spoiler for Kanubis when he catches up).


Thanks, as it happened I just finished Series 5 on Friday, catching up ;)

I think Series 4 was my favourite so far, mainly because Catherine Tate was so, so much better as a companion than I had expected. Her emotional acting (Pompeii episode, and at the end when she realizes that she has to forget everything) was incredibly strong. I like the way they wrote out Tennant's Doctor as well, seriously unable to deal with the constant loss and unraveling a bit as a result.

It's a bit gutting that with the new doctor clearly comes a clean slate (no more cameos by any previous associates apart from Song.) Someone replied to me earlier that Moffet's influence isn't as positive as you might hope considering the quality of his episodes in earlier series, but rather than being worse I think it's been a double-edged sword. The individual episodes don't have the strength, but as a coherent series I really liked 5. I also liked the way he handled Rory as a character. I actually got quite irritated in series 1 & 2 by Davies' handling of Mickey, and I still kid of dislike Rose as a character for her treatment of him. I think Moffet might have felt the same, by introducing the notion that spending too much time on the Tardis makes you disconnect from your own life too much. The Vampire of Venice was probably one of the weakest episodes of the series, but I've never liked the Doctor as much as I did for simply taking that step to stop Amy from screwing her life over.

Great series end as well I thought.

Also, the Angels are still the best 'baddie.'
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:05 PM

View PostKanubis, on 08 April 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

It's a bit gutting that with the new doctor clearly comes a clean slate (no more cameos by any previous associates apart from Song.)



The Moff did want to bring back Jack Harkness for an episode in season 6, but filming clashed with Torchwood so that fell through. It is generally true though and made incredibly obvious at points.

I didn't like Rory initially but now I like him far more than Amy as a character. He's almost as awesome as Bernard Cribbins.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:08 PM

View PostKanubis, on 08 April 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

Thanks, as it happened I just finished Series 5 on Friday, catching up ;)


And now comes the acid test...Series 6. A lot of people's least fave of the revived series. Though it has two or three of thew best episodes of Matt smith's Doctor (THE DOCTOR'S WIFE, THE GIRL WHO WAITED [both nominated for Hugo's yesterday] and the opening two-part ep THE IMPOSSIBLE ASTRONAUT and THE DAY OF THE MOON) but those are bookended by only half decent episodes (LET'S KILL HITLER, THE GOD COMPLEX) and some downright awful ones (A GOOD MAN GOES TO WAR, and The pirate one, can't recall the name)...and has the weakest/easiest overall story arc of all the Moffat stuff, and the weakest finale (at least compared with last series stellar PANDORICA finale).

Two things though, for us who watched it on TV it was split in half (on a cliffhanger) and we had to wait MONTHS before seeing the second half...and I feel that was detrimental to the overall enjoyment so I'd like to see if you are less affected by not having to wait. And also, I'll be curious if you can figure out the big twist ahead of time like I did. ;D

And I really loved Series 5 myself. It was a great intro to Smith's Doctor and had a number of really solid episodes with a nice overall arc...no my issues with Moffat's tenure have more to do with Series 6 than anything.

Anyways, enjoy and once you're caught up you can join us in awaiting Series 7!

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