[Shadow]

I can tell you right now, the Brutii will be more concerned with the growing republican numbers than with Julii

if both Brutii and Reps keep their recruiters, and just recruit all the julii between them, Brutii still lose in the long run--because Brutii start out as the minority and can't get the numbers to pull off lynches themselves.

Reps have the biggest advantage right now--a hidden recruter.

while Brutus is alive to counter him, by recruiting known republicans to prevent their growth, it's a numbers game, where all teams have chances, thought they may not be equal
take brutus out of the picture, and youre left with Republicans who benefited from 2 nights of uninhibited recruiting (this night + next night) and STILL have a hidden recruiter. That's no longer a num bers game, it's a Republican steamroller.

[Path-Shaper]

I am off for a while. We are still waiting for a couple of night action to get in.


Vengeance

[Shadow]

that's the problem with giving everyone roles....

[Gamelon]

True, but its also how we got up to tmdi 9.

[Korlat]

Shadow, on Jan 10 2009, 08:11 PM, said:

I can tell you right now, the Brutii will be more concerned with the growing republican numbers than with Julii

if both Brutii and Reps keep their recruiters, and just recruit all the julii between them, Brutii still lose in the long run--because Brutii start out as the minority and can't get the numbers to pull off lynches themselves.

Reps have the biggest advantage right now--a hidden recruter.

while Brutus is alive to counter him, by recruiting known republicans to prevent their growth, it's a numbers game, where all teams have chances, thought they may not be equal
take brutus out of the picture, and youre left with Republicans who benefited from 2 nights of uninhibited recruiting (this night + next night) and STILL have a hidden recruiter. That's no longer a num bers game, it's a Republican steamroller.

Anyone not voting for Mockra tomorrow is instantly under suspicion of not being a Republican. That makes them easy targets the next day. When the only advantage they have is that nobody knows who they are, it's not a good way of giving themselves a chance. I'm pretty sure we'll see the Julii joining in tomorrow.

[Korlat]

I suspect we're waiting on Serc and/or Liosan - they're the only ones who haven't been around.

[Emurlahn]

Arguing at night is slightly useless, but then again it's boring otherwise

I understand Shadow's concern about the Republican's recruiter. Sadly, he's trying to convince the Republicans to shoot themselves in the foot and the Julii to take a guess instead of a sure shot at another team's leader by looking somewhere else than Mockra. If the Brutii are indeed a small faction, then they can't take risks and put themselves in the open, so Mockra is toast.

After, it will get dirty. I'm a little pissed at the lack of NKs so far, ending a 20 players game with only lynches, we're here forever, and it will get nasty to always reach majorities. Let's hope the nights get bloodier

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 10 January 2009 - 08:54 PM

[Emurlahn]

As for recruitment, I don't know if the power gets transfered. We know it could have happened once for the Julii, and the other Cicero expose was on an original leader. My own role PM doesn't mention anything about me ending up with any recruitment ability if whoever is above me dies.

[Shadow]

yeah, neither does mine.
and i'm not asking people to look for the republican leader--that IS pretty much geuesswork
any one of the confirmed repubpicans is a good target to me--i'm not looking at powers, i'm looking at numbers.

[Korlat]

The thing is that the numbers can't be brought to bear unless everyone knows who is who. Unfortunately for you, Shadow, everyone knows which side you're on .

[Gamelon]

Oh, God this is why I HATE weekend freeze. Its finally a time where I can be on, and nothing happens!

[Shadow]

Korlat, on Jan 10 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

The thing is that the numbers can't be brought to bear unless everyone knows who is who. Unfortunately for you, Shadow, everyone knows which side you're on .

at this point, I know which side most of the people are on--the only good thing about being a counter, you see
and that allows me to make suggestions and suppositions about how things work

[Serc]

"The Lord will protect you from all evil (Psalm 121:7)"

What lord, Fener, you still died anyway... I've got that nagging suspicion there's someone who'll protect Mockra for some reason...

[Shadow]

well, right now he's being guarded. so, we're giving Reps a night to cement their advantage, good job Ruse!

[Korlat]

Right, so I guess we're just waiting on Liosan now...I would shake my fist at him, but I'm not 100% sure...

[Gamelon]

Thank you Ruse

EDIT: GD Crosspost

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 10 January 2009 - 09:46 PM

[Korlat]

Anyway, I'm off for a bit. Hopefully night will be done by the time I get back. *crosses fingers*

[Path-Shaper]

Still waiting on some actions.

[Rashan]

night shouldnt be frozen its plain ridiculous, day freezes are alright as its 36 hours anyway and people can still vote and do stuff, this sitting waiting on a player that might not turn up by monday

i will check tomorrow.

[Liosan]

Not waiting on me sorry guys... I submitted my actions as soon as I voted for Fener.