[Witchking11]

Im reading through Gardens of the moon for the first time and am enjoying it. However the chapter 5 dream scene of Kruppe was very confusing to me. I was just wondering if Im missing anything important to the plot by not understanding it or if someone could explain it to me?

Thanks

[dktorode]

I think its best you finish the book first.
There are other dream scenes which could shed some light on the Chapter 5 one.
Once you are done and you still dont understand then we can explain.

Simply because explaining to you might contain spoilers.
And you dont want that now do ya

Or maybe you can tell us what exactly is confusing you with that scene and we can try and explain without spoilers?

This post has been edited by dktorode: 19 December 2008 - 09:38 AM

[Dancer+]

I'd like to further dktorode's sentiments. Read until the end, because you might pick up what's going on, but if you don't then feel free to ask here. Or if there is a specific part you don't understand one of us can deign to answer.

[Bhurnae]

Sorry if we dont seem very helpful.............unfortunately,especially at the beginning of the series, the only valid answer is ReadOn. There will be several "see the light" moments later.......

[XIcy Hot Patchx]

The harder dream to understand is later on in the story (don't want to say anything yet). I am also a first time reader and don't understand it, but it was pretty cool. I love the way things are turning out.

[Dolorous Menhir]

If we can discuss it without spoilers (and I don't think it's a plot issue), what was the symbolism of the old women dunking cats in barrels?

I can only think of some fairly vulgar interpretations of that, which doesn't really seem right.

[XIcy Hot Patchx]

^ agreed.

[Witchking11]

Thanks guys. ill continue reading and hopefully it will come together for me at the end

[Wordmerchant]

This dream really serves three purposes:
1 - It serves to introduce Kruppe and the Darujhistan story arc.
2 - It establishes the idea that within a dream Kruppe posesses some undefined power.
3 - The warning to Kruppe to "...strive for the life of Darujhistan, for the life of your many friends, and for the life of the youth at whose feet the coin falls." is a significant foreshadowing of coming events.

[silentmaven]

A Quote from the works:

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For some, the talent they possessed found its channel through a toss of knucklebones, the reading of heat fractures in scapulae, or the Fatid of the Deck of Dragons. For Kruppe, he had no need of any such affectations. The power of divination was in his head and he could not deny it, no matter how hard be tried. Within his skull rang the dirge of prophecy, and it echoed through his bones

This is what cleared this dream up for me the first time I read this novel (I am re-reading it currently) and I hope it helps. It is found very soon after the chapter begins if you care to take a look at it yourself. Its the 6th paragraph.

[IWishIWasBlank]

silentmaven, on Mar 16 2009, 02:53 AM, said:

A Quote from the works:

Quote

For some, the talent they possessed found its channel through a toss of knucklebones, the reading of heat fractures in scapulae, or the Fatid of the Deck of Dragons. For Kruppe, he had no need of any such affectations. The power of divination was in his head and he could not deny it, no matter how hard be tried. Within his skull rang the dirge of prophecy, and it echoed through his bones

This in itself is another great addition to the definition of "what is Kruppe exactly!?!??"

This post has been edited by IWishIWasBlank: 29 May 2009 - 02:58 AM

[Bear]

I'm rereading it and when I saw this quote it was one of those "damn, how did I miss (or forget) this??" moments...

my DoD comes tomorrow from the UK!! I can't wait!!