[Path-Shaper]

stupid mod can't do math
you NOW have 3 hours untill clock restarts.
apologies for any inconveniences the improper tiiming announcement may have caused you.

[Ruse]

OK, so looking through Kaschan's body of posts, there were only one thing that stood out to me:

Kaschan, on Dec 5 2008, 12:44 AM, said:

I have no resolute opinion on Mockra - I don't think there's any loss in lynching him, as he's the only person who can actually increase the scum's numbers ... but there are probably about equal odds right now of him being forced into an Inno role, given that two GBs are down. I hate wild cards, but we may be able to risk his presence for the time being.

(underline mine - you know how I love those things )

He seems pretty sure that there's only one role like this...but that's a really minor thing. The other point is that he doesn't seem to start anything - just reads over cases and then jumps on one train or the other. Nothing tangible to make a case on except a lack of initiative (which could be scummy, I guess) and a slip that could indicate some minor knowledge about role distribution, as far as I can see.


EDIT: Cross-post with Fener, Gamelon, Kaschan, Kessobahn and PS. I think that covers everyone...

This post has been edited by Ruse: 08 December 2008 - 04:11 AM

[Ruse]

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 04:03 AM, said:

@Ruse: I just don't like attacking someone who can't defend themselves. Mine was an early vote on Omtose, IIRC, and I really expected him to be able to come back and say something. I've got no idea what's going on with him, and won't act against him until there's an explanation.

I'm not accusing you of anything related to that - I'm just looking at his inability to defend himself and thinking that seeing as he mentioned you earlier, it was worth taking a look at your posts...

[Fener]

If I am not mistaken, Omtose said he would check in on the thread when he gets to work today (monday). So he will have a chance to defend himself.

[Ruse]

Fener, on Dec 8 2008, 04:16 AM, said:

If I am not mistaken, Omtose said he would check in on the thread when he gets to work today (monday). So he will have a chance to defend himself.

Do you think there's any merit to the theory that someone has the ability to silence others and chose him? As I recall, his last post said he'd be away for about 15 hours or so, but that was on Thursday...

[Gamelon]

Why choose him though? You could say his "silencing" was possibly a plan to get him lynched, but I doubt it. I reckon its just RL.

[Silanah]

Ok here and reading up on what i've missed.

[Ruse]

I have a theory on that, but I'm unwilling to share because I don't know the orientation of the role. I don't want to out someone only for the scum to go "not one of us - must be a GB!" and get them NKed.


EDIT: @Gamelon

This post has been edited by Ruse: 08 December 2008 - 04:26 AM

[Fener]

Ugh, this took a while to catch up, and if Kess can answer correctly...we are kinda back to square one. Which would lead me to , a Mockra vote. Because if what Gamelon says is true and his PM says he is a goodie.... then Mockra is evil. (Unless he lied about his role mechanics.)

[Silanah]

Hmm damn so Gamelon is claiming to be Dana/The Gatekeeper? Weren't you RI to start with Gamelon then, you said you had a small role that you had to go look up on wiki?

I am inclined to a Gamelon lynch at this point. I presume there is some sort of mechanic involving possession and finding for the Gatekeeper/Keymaster. And Gamelon has made it a crap load easier for it.

I'm not sure what to do about Mockra though the whole thing is just damn suspicious any way I look at it at the moment.

[Ruse]

Silanah, on Dec 8 2008, 04:39 AM, said:

Hmm damn so Gamelon is claiming to be Dana/The Gatekeeper? Weren't you RI to start with Gamelon then, you said you had a small role that you had to go look up on wiki?

I am inclined to a Gamelon lynch at this point. I presume there is some sort of mechanic involving possession and finding for the Gatekeeper/Keymaster. And Gamelon has made it a crap load easier for it.

I'm not sure what to do about Mockra though the whole thing is just damn suspicious any way I look at it at the moment.

That reminds me - with the word possession continually being brought up, I am reminded of the RD game. I think we'd best be on the look out for people's post styles changing from now on, just in case .


And you bring up a good point, Silanah - it's possible that there's some kind of game mechanic tied to Gamelon being possessed...and it's probably good for the scum. I still think we should use the extra time this has afforded us for a little more discussion, but a Gamelon lynch might still be necessary...

[Silanah]

Posting styles won't change, I imagine Gozer can PM a name each night and if its the Dana/Louis they get recruited. And if he gets them both, all hell breaks out.

I'm surprised no Omtose yet though, I guess maybe in 6 or 7 hours he'll show up. Also Shadow is MIA. If he's a killer I'm going to be pissed, talk about hiding.

[Fener]

Ruse, on Dec 7 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

Silanah, on Dec 8 2008, 04:39 AM, said:

Hmm damn so Gamelon is claiming to be Dana/The Gatekeeper? Weren't you RI to start with Gamelon then, you said you had a small role that you had to go look up on wiki?

I am inclined to a Gamelon lynch at this point. I presume there is some sort of mechanic involving possession and finding for the Gatekeeper/Keymaster. And Gamelon has made it a crap load easier for it.

I'm not sure what to do about Mockra though the whole thing is just damn suspicious any way I look at it at the moment.

That reminds me - with the word possession continually being brought up, I am reminded of the RD game. I think we'd best be on the look out for people's post styles changing from now on, just in case .


And you bring up a good point, Silanah - it's possible that there's some kind of game mechanic tied to Gamelon being possessed...and it's probably good for the scum. I still think we should use the extra time this has afforded us for a little more discussion, but a Gamelon lynch might still be necessary...

I agree, As I said in a previous post, if we don't lynch him tonight, we can't trust him for the rest of the game. What I do worry about is the turning of Dana into the gatekeeper. Which I basically see as a bonus role for the scum. So, since Gamelon has revealed, if we don't lynch him today, we either have to lynch him tomorrow. Or leave him alone and not waste a lynch and just accept him as a "Known scum". Sorry Gamelon... you seem pretty boned at this point.

[Fener]

Also, if you are RI and haven't announced it yet. Please don't unless we are about to lynch you.

[Korlat]

Sorry for being away all weekend guys, RL got in the way big time.

Have slogged through the weekend and I am now concerned. If Game is claiming Dana, then WTF?
Her role was not tiny and she became the Gatekeeper.... So WTF??? I am not sure I buy that reveal. After all without the Gatekeeper and the Keymaster, how is it possible for the Goza or the Stay puft boy to be around exactly?

As for Kess, his claim of not having a name makes no sense! In a game where the CF gives role name and account name, having no name does not compute. (and yes I am aware someone pointed it out before)

As for Mockra well, fuck! If Game is telling the truth about being a good (Which I do doubt) then Mockra should be evil, in which case the reveal made no sense, however if Game is bullshitting us and Mockra is now good, why out himself as he has, so I am rather confused (now on this subject and lack of sleep does not help either ).

In all honesty though, I think we need to make as much use of out 14 or so hours we have to come to decision. My first choice atm would be Game, based entirely on his reveal.

Edit: Stupid fucking Crosspost! (With Silanah and Ruse)

This post has been edited by Korlat: 08 December 2008 - 05:06 AM

[Ruse]

Right guys, I want to call it a night...work tomorrow etc. etc.

Only thing is, I'm probably not going to be up in time to vote before the deadline. Just can't decide whether or not to put my vote back on Gamelon...

[Ruse]

Oh wait, I keep thinking we only have 5 hours after the restart when we actually have 12. In that case, I will be on, so no worries! Night guys.

[Fener]

Korlat, on Dec 7 2008, 09:03 PM, said:

Sorry for being away all weekend guys, RL got in the way big time.

Have slogged through the weekend and I am now concerned. If Game is claiming Dana, then WTF?
Her role was not tiny and she became the Gatekeeper.... So WTF??? I am not sure I buy that reveal. After all without the Gatekeeper and the Keymaster, how is it possible for the Goza or the Stay puft boy to be around exactly?

As for Kess, his claim of not having a name makes no sense! In a game where the CF gives role name and account name, having no name does not compute. (and yes I am aware someone pointed it out before)

As for Mockra well, fuck! If Game is telling the truth about being a good (Which I do doubt) then Mockra should be evil, in which case the reveal made no sense, however if Game is bullshitting us and Mockra is now good, why out himself as he has, so I am rather confused (now on this subject and lack of sleep does not help either ).

In all honesty though, I think we need to make as much use of out 14 or so hours we have to come to decision. My first choice atm would be Game, based entirely on his reveal.

Edit: Stupid fucking Crosspost! (With Silanah and Ruse)

I don't think its an issue of them being in the Game.. but more what Silanah said. Like Gozer or someone can PM a name each night to PS and if they guess the Keymaster or the Gatekeeper then they change sides. Thats why I feel it makes sense. But like you said....its all if we accept Gamelon's reveal. The more I think about it the more I think we might need to lynch him. If we do, and the role checks out, it 1) takes out a potential evil symp, 2) Verifies that Mockra is evil( if the mechanics he says he plays by are true).

As for Stay Puft.... damn if we are all sitting in this house with eachother trying to figure out who is good and who is evil and we can't spot the 200 foot tall sailor thats made out of Marshmallows. I don't care how good of a mask he wears

[Korlat]

Fener, on Dec 8 2008, 07:17 AM, said:

I don't think its an issue of them being in the Game.. but more what Silanah said. Like Gozer or someone can PM a name each night to PS and if they guess the Keymaster or the Gatekeeper then they change sides. Thats why I feel it makes sense. But like you said....its all if we accept Gamelon's reveal. The more I think about it the more I think we might need to lynch him. If we do, and the role checks out, it 1) takes out a potential evil symp, 2) Verifies that Mockra is evil( if the mechanics he says he plays by are true).

As for Stay Puft.... damn if we are all sitting in this house with eachother trying to figure out who is good and who is evil and we can't spot the 200 foot tall sailor thats made out of Marshmallows. I don't care how good of a mask he wears

Hadn't thought of that, but stranger things have happened

Fine they could be in the game in which case they are a risk to us, but its way he revealed at first, he claimed it was a difficult to find/minor role that gets me(assuming I am remembering correctly), Dana is pretty much the centre of attention in both movies.

So I am inclined to believe that if we do not lynch Game today, we will have to at some point soon. As for Mockra being slimer, its the same sort of situation.

So if we are going to hold off on them then the other candidates for the lynch today atm are Omtose and Kess.

[Fener]

Well, I agree... we might have to lynch gamelon. I don't see an Omtose lynch happening cause of his absense. Thats fine, I would rather be sure. Kess, I am voting for unless he gives me the right answer on if he is RI. If he gives the right answer.... I think we need to vote Gamelon so that we can determine Mockra's role.
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