[Kaschan]

Gamelon, on Dec 7 2008, 04:56 PM, said:

As I am more or less about to die, shall I post my encoded role?

Feel free, since I feel kind of dumb for not figuring it out on my own.

My guess ... you're the hot dog vendor.

Or the librarian.

Edit: No! Wait! You're ... the maitre'd at the restaurant.

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 08 December 2008 - 01:07 AM

[Gamelon]

Gamelon, on Dec 5 2008, 03:39 PM, said:

Right I'm back. As D'riss has been a little more conversational today...

Remove vote

I didn't like that attitude, and you did refuse to clarify what you wanted discussed. HP's joke was sort of obvious, imo, and shouldn't have needed to be clarified.

Whence I explained what I meant by list, which, lets face it, was not a genius idea, good lovers are hardly novel, you did seem to take it fairly strongly, as well as laying the blame for one dead GB more or less at my feet, which I just didn't like. It's not an impossible idea that killers may have had figured it out already, anyway. Or just plain and simple bad luck.

Mockra, please stop speculating roles and alts, because I learnt my lesson lols, please take it from me, its a bad idea.
And anyway, I am RI. As there is no CF, you would have to have been PMed about your faction. Simple as. Killing me will simply give you the name of a bit part in the movie. Does anyone notice anything, anything at all, about the fact that Mockra is acting rather Slimer like? Just annoying us all a bit.

As for Silencer, I believe he had some RL issues going on at the time, actually.

Gamelon, on Dec 5 2008, 10:33 PM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 5 2008, 10:29 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Dec 5 2008, 11:26 PM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 5 2008, 10:23 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Dec 5 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

Check through my posts if you want proof I ain't scum
and no, not the obvious "code" one, which isn't a code.
I'm not convinced by Mockra's innocence, either, but I'll get to that later in the day, I'll post the PM I sent to P-S conemplating it, if needed.

Apparently Omtose has been going with the flow and even contradicting his posts to do so. I haven't looked at it in detail but I could swear Omtose wasn't quite that bad. I shall examine it in a while.

There's some sort of proof of your innocence somewhere? Care to point me to it?

No, I don't think I will. But its there, if someone actually knows the characters of the movie (and I'm defo in it, of which I ain't sure) and wants to go over my posts.

Are you kidding me? How would anything you put into your own posts prove anything?

Oh, so you know the characters from the movie, oh then you must be innocent. /Sarcasm

Well, I, for one, am not going to reveal my character fully, for reasons I don't have to explain to you, because quite frankly you can believe Mockra and I or not.
Asking for a full role reveal...Silly, aren't We
or scum?

That's right, I'm Dana/Sigourney Weaver. *sighs*

[Fener]

Here and gonna catch up. Just gonna say.... Gam I think you might have made a big mistake. Didn't Dana turn into the gatekeeper.... when she and Rick Moranis got possesed They allowed Gozer to access the world. Maybe part of the Reason Mockra came back with a Neutral reading on you is that you can be good or evil depending on if you get possesed. And now that scum knows who you are... Lets hope Rick Moranis's character (can't remember his name in movie) stays silent. With that being said, I think we should hold off on lynching you and talk this out. Mockra's reveal makes more sense now. Gonna go catch up

[Gamelon]

Well, either way I'm dead, I think.

[Fener]

Mockra, on Dec 6 2008, 06:52 AM, said:

i will follow you here, i think korlat said it best when he said i wanted to be inno and i do.

remove vote

vote gamelon

i am not lying about my role, but i do not believe i will receive my winning conditions or i would effectively be a finder guard and the mods told me when i asked for my alignment that i wasn't this. Therefore the only way for me to know my alignment is to lynch the person i last guarded. If gamelon is RI as claimed then other RI's will confirm that they received a name and the actor which is how he claims to have used to prove his innocence. Also when i revealed i expressed confusion and doubt regarding my role but he jumped at the chance to claim roleless innocent, much more so than was necessary.

@rashan - i made my case against gamelon as a symp, so i voted for who i thought was his master. It isnt elaborate.

If gamelon is roleless innocent we will know and i will be confirmed as evil, if people are confident of this they can lynch me or have me guard another player. Tonight i will guard rashan if i am not lynched. My reasoning for doing so is because i believe he is possibly a vig (i doubt there are any roleless innos in the game with such a high tmdi) and i would prefer to survive until morning. He was also very strange in the manner of his approach to the case he made, and i prefer how emurlahn went about it.

edited - wrong word used

@ Mockra Like I satated before it seems we now have a reason for why you haven't had a faction determined yet.

@ Gamelon- We might have to lynch you now, if you have no powers or abilities for good people, it seems like a goal for the scum to either posses you and make you as a symp for their team, OR to make sure you die. I can see Yellow putting in you as a possible evil symp if found, Kind of like Slimer could be evil or good. I am starting to see how he is trying to balance this out.... I think haha

[Gamelon]

According to my role PM, I am a goodie, though. So I now think Mockra is bullshitting.

[Fener]

Mockra, on Dec 6 2008, 10:27 AM, said:

Guys, i am telling you now i do not know if my alignment changed. if gamelon is roleless innocent as claimed then i am EVIL. His assertation that my alignment wouldnt change was what made me suspicious as he is clutching at straws. Vote me off if you want, at least then i will know which team i can root for, as is, i cannot actively play, as i cannot know if i am hurting my team.

OK This is making sense. Gamelon is NOT roleless. He has a name. That is a role. I can vouch with HP. RI's get a generic name not pertaining to the movie. I think you need to be careful who you guard tonight as I believe you haven't been assigned a team yet. Its insane to believe that the Mod's wouldn't tell you what team you are on, unless you haven't been assigned one yet.

[Fener]

Gamelon, on Dec 7 2008, 06:45 PM, said:

According to my role PM, I am a goodie, though. So I now think Mockra is bullshitting.

If thats the case, and you are telling the truth. And if Mockra is telling the truth about his mechanics, then Mockra is in fact evil right now. Evil guard is a bad thing.

[Ruse]

Still not entirely sure about this, but until I am,

Remove Vote

[Fener]

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 11:55 AM, said:

Fuck, are you guys serious, I may be making a big mistake, but all I can do is hope for a fucking healer after I clarify this. Em, you seem really smart, and certainly like picking me apart, so I can't believe you are this dull. As for Mockra, there are only 2 reasons for him pushing a Game lynch, either he didn't think his reveal through or he's scum. So I am going to tell you what I think you are missing.

Game is a fucking GB, what isn't inno or evil. The fucking GB, they aren't inno, because they aren't town. They aren't evil, because they are on the towns side, I can't believe you didn't see this before Mockra, as soon as you said it, I was like, IDIOT!!! SO now, you pulled the third GB out in the open, and the very intelligent Emu, who knows how to really play the game, is trying to push the lynch trough. I was waiting for the lynch to get to L-2, but no, I think that is a bad idea. I think we lynch Emur today. Because I think you have played brilliantly, but thats whats wrong here. You question Mockra's reveal, but still push the Game lynch. Wrong, mate, you gots to go.

Remove Vote Vote Emur

Holy hell, you are all over the place man.... I am starting to go with the Emur in thinking you are a symp.. even though we now kinda know that Game isn't a GB... Why the hell would you go and say that......

[Gamelon]

I don't think Mockra IS telling the truth about his mechanics. I think he's a finder symp who had to signal me out to his masters for whatever reason, but the fact that he seems so intent on lynching me has made me decide I may need to stay alive.

[Fener]

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 01:44 PM, said:

well, he's not gonna reveal as a ghostbuster is he? Look, I am a Roleless inno, I got no name and no role, just a dude. If he was lying about being a roleless inno, he would be evil and you would have gotten a you are innocent pm. Since you didn't the only thing he could be is a fucking GB. That means you drew him into the open. Now I understand, if you are telling the truth, which I believe you are, why you would be confused and reveal(although you should have waited until you had a better idea of what you were doing, IMO). But I saw it, and with the level of intelligence that Emur is showing, I expect him to have thought the same thing. But he pushed hard for a Game lynch, even saying we lynch game first. SO no, he wanted Game lynched, to save the killers the trouble. Do I know for sure, no, but it makes sense. I just hope we have a healer, that can heal him tonight or he's toast, but better that than lynching a secon GB.

Bold is mine. Ok dude... now I know you are full of shit. I am a RI and even I got a name. Its not in the movie, but its a name. Hood's Path verifies that he is also RI and also got a name, A generic one. Just like me. What are you up to symp? Oh yeah, symping. Stirring the pot

Vote Kessobahn

[Path-Shaper]

MMM.. STEAK...

Day 2, weeknd freeze is in effect. Clock starts at 7GMT Monday (that's AM, so 4 hours from now), with 12 hours left.

15 of you are still alive (Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

8 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for D'riss: Shadow
1 votes for Mockra : , Gamelon
1 vote for Kessobahn : Fener
6 votes for Gamelon: Emurlahn, Mockra, Kessobahn, D'riss, Hood's Path,Rashan

6 people have not voted:,Ruse, Omtose, Silanah, Tennes, Korlat, Kaschan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 December 2008 - 04:07 AM

[Fener]

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 02:27 PM, said:

Mockra, on Dec 6 2008, 05:10 PM, said:

I have stressed this since i revealed, i was told i was not a finder guard, i will not get a pm telling me my new alignment. if i currently am not neutral i have not been informed. By your own reckoning gamelon can't be a ghostbuster because otherwise i woul dhave been told i am evil. I think he is RI and i am EVIL, yet none of you seem to believe that.

Are you sure. I went back and you said this

a) You didn't recieve a pm telling you what your allignment was
You assumed you were a finder gaurd
c) PS said like fuck you are a finder gaurd.

I didn't see where PS said you would never get the alignment pm. Now, that causes other problems. And Game, sorry if I am over stepping, but as a Roleless inno, I know you are lying about getting a name. I assumed it was because you are a GB, but you may be a roled inno, or an evil scum. I dunno, I am inclind to believe scum, if and only if, Mockra NEVER gets a alignment pm. Nice job Yellow, or if Mockra created that mechanic, like Emur believes, good job Mockra.

RI's get names... but you wouldn't know that cause you aren't RI. Maybe I am mistaken but I don't think so.

[Fener]

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 03:25 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on Dec 6 2008, 06:16 PM, said:

I may be fucking dull and stupid

You said it.

And if you still want to lynch him, fine, I am on board. I hope I'm wrong, but really I think I am right. He's what L-4?

Remove Vote Vote gamelon


Lets find out, if he's inno, we lynch Mockra then you.

Edit: If he's a GB, we leave Mockra and lynch you. Either way, if he's scum, ypu lynch me and we wont have to pu up with each other anymore.

wow another random switch.... you really don't care where we vote do you?

[Ruse]

Now that you point it out, there is that incredibly generic name, but when we were discussing it before I always just took that as more of a description...it's an easy mistake to make. I know Kess has been acting suspicious and all, but that's not a piece of evidence I can accept as scuminess - hell, I made the same mistake! Damnit, now you're going to think I'm scum too .

[Fener]

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 03:42 PM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 6 2008, 06:29 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 7 2008, 12:10 AM, said:

You reveal that shit at 2 votes so it doesn't look like you are trying to be a symp to the person L-1. And You also do it to show that Emur is pushing for a players lynch, even though he says Mockra is lying. Why not go for Mockra? And I am asking for the Emur lynch, because he bullies and pushes like he has nothing to lose. That means he's not roled in my eyes. He didn't connect in thread with the fact that a roleless inno doesn't get a name or a movie role. Since he isn't worried about being nked for being loud and bullish, which a roled inno would be(WIFOM here), he must be a roled evil. Not that I expect yo uto believe me, but whatever.

So it's all about you, and not about your FUCKING TEAM?! WTF! And if you think Emur is not roled, then why do you want to lynch him? Then you say he's scum? On what premise? You're STILL not making any sense.



Edit: Kesso WTF?

Read again more slowly this time Rash. I am unroled, I didnt get a name. Game did. And he claims roleless inno. I think he's a GB. Emur doesn't. Never occured to him, he was just, lynch lynch lynch!!! SO he could be a roled inno, you might say, thats why he didn't catch it. But if he was, He wouldn't be pushing so hard, and look, he's pushing HARD! HE's ok with a Mockra and Game lynch, he thinks I am the symp. So, he's not too worried as if he is a roled inno of getting NKed. That means to me anyway, he's not scared of the NK, like me, I don't care if I get NKed or not. I m however roleless, I would never play like this if I was roled, I would be useful to my team then. I then believe he is scum. Look at how clean he plays, look at how he leads the pack. Look how he disregaurds everything I say and says its because I am a symp. No one else is doing that. They may not like me, but they listen. He instead ignores and helps others to ignore what I am saying. I was wrong about Lio, and for that I am sorry, I may be wrong about Game, he might very well be scum, but the total bull-dozer like quality of Emur, tells me I may be right about him. Get out of sheep mode Rash and look at his posts. All of them, look closely. then come back and tell what you see. If you think I am wrong, we vote off Game, and maybe then you will start looking at him.

Though Game claimed RI I suspect he can be a conduit for evil...what we need to know now is has he already been turned. (I don't think so as its only been one night). Also, after tonight I suspect we can never rust Game again

[Gamelon]

Right... Vote Kessobahn

Because I want to find out just what comes up when he dies.

[Ruse]

Here's the offending post...someone else would have found it sooner or later anyway.

Ruse, on Dec 7 2008, 02:19 PM, said:

Right, so people seem to be of the opinion that it's not worth going after Omtose when he can't defend himself. Fair enough. Gamelon seems to be saying that he's RI but was given a name...that conflicts both with what Kessobahn says and the information my PM provided me. So either Gamelon is also some weird kind of neutral like Slimer, or Mockra is lying, in which case Gamelon could be anything. So either both are lying or neither are...makes it hard to decide. In the end, I'm going to go on who's CF will provide more info - and I think that is Gamelon, because I still can't believe anyone would make up a role like the one Mockra described. Even if it doesn't work the way he says it does, we won't find that out from his CF, whereas we will get new information from Gamelon's. So

Remove Vote

Vote Gamelon


And now I need to look at Kaschan and Korlat, if you'd excuse me.

EDIT: Crosspost with Gamelon and Mockra's conversation.

[Gamelon]

So Ruse, what do you think of Kessobahn not having a name? and what do you think about his GB attempt?