[D'riss]

Hood's Path, on Dec 5 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

when that is said, I do agree that the omtose case is a case I can go with. It's well thought true, and adresses actual, rational points, much unlike your vote on me .

Wink all you want, it doesn't change the fact that I do believe you were acting/exagerating both the drunky, and the hangover. And I conclude what I want to conclude from that conviction.

[Mockra]

see above, why not, i cant play without an alignment. I need to know which team i am on and i don't so what difference does it make if i revealed. I can't hurt my team, because i have no idea which team it is. I can't make any plans or cases, because i don't know if i should protect the scum, or help them. If you dont lynch me i am just going to post once a day to not be modkilled and you can all hope i am not evil by the time i die, or hope i am evil.

Personally if i was looking for scum, the comment by gamelon about 8 players roled sounded suspiciously knowledgeable. If i am evil, well if liosan was a ghost buster and HP said they talked off thread... just saying team evil, theres a target for night 2.

Care to lynch me now?

[D'riss]

Mockra, on Dec 5 2008, 11:40 AM, said:

see above, why not, i cant play without an alignment. I need to know which team i am on and i don't so what difference does it make if i revealed. I can't hurt my team, because i have no idea which team it is. I can't make any plans or cases, because i don't know if i should protect the scum, or help them. If you dont lynch me i am just going to post once a day to not be modkilled and you can all hope i am not evil by the time i die, or hope i am evil.

Personally if i was looking for scum, the comment by gamelon about 8 players roled sounded suspiciously knowledgeable. If i am evil, well if liosan was a ghost buster and HP said they talked off thread... just saying team evil, theres a target for night 2.

Care to lynch me now?

You honestly believe whoever said you would not be made aware of your alignment if you gained one? Really?

[Mockra]

as for kessobahn - he is more than likely roleless innocent, i mean why would a killer rant on thread, or a roled player even, which makes emur sort of RI as well because he coutner ranted, so those two are non lynch non night kill territory. Cause whats the point, the killers can use kesso later int he game as a scapegoat so its best to leave him until the end.

As for rashan, he is gung ho, and could be construed as a symp quite easily if you used his posts well, theres a certain blood thirsty ness to him, but he seems inno if a little aggressive. Panicky though so possibly is a symp playing for the evils. Doubt he is a big evil, too vocal and not careful enough for a killer.

tennes - very helpful and thinks about what they are saying, either a relatively new player in an inno role and hasnt reached the level of more experienced players like kesso who go out to antagonise, or he is a very smart killer. Probably innocent.

I can do this all day you know, i don't have a faction and am startignt o warm to the idea of ripping everyones game apart not just the killers.

[D'riss]

Oy.

Mockra, I don't want to insult you, but with the role you have (if you are telling the truth) I really don't get your point.

Stop acting like this, if you gained a team you WOULD be told about it, now what you're doing is just making you piss off both teams and get killed with no chance of winning. If that's your plan, then I fail to understand you.

[Mockra]

if gamelon is RI like he claims then i am probably evil today, i don't care about getting lynched, think about it from my point of view whats the point in making cases or trying to play if i don't even know what team i am on. I voted for gamelon to discover his alignment because that would let me know once and for all, but it isn't going to happen, so why not implode, it seems like the done thing this game, and i dislike playing without a set goal. Given how i played in the heroes game, yellow really should have seen this coming.

Plus if you are right and omtose is evil, i may as well act like his symp, hey omtose i will take this one today, good luck tomorrow

I can act whichever way i like driss, hell you might be evil and think i am on your team, is that why you want me to cool it, safety in numbers? Hey people, driss is symping me.

so HP is a ghostbuster, gamelon is an RI, driss is evil and so is omtose.

See my reveal was useful to everyone, and not many people get to say that in a game of mafia.

[D'riss]

I'm off for a bit before I insult Mockra

[D'riss]

OK, cooled down, so I can be coherent and respectful about this.


Mockra, I don't want to lynch, I shouldn't want to lynch you, you're not a killer. But if you play like this, against both teams (and why? Because you think the mods wouldn't tell you if you gained a team? Absurd), highlighting who you think could be roled or not and why, then you're obviously a danger, and a danger we shouldn't have to deal with.

That's my main point: You're not a third team, you're in between the two. Acting like this does in no way help you win, on the contrary. You're a liability, a waste of lynch, and you're doing this for no reason I can see.

[D'riss]

And where is Omtose? The last two days he's been active for 2-3 hours already at that time

[Mockra]

i am just sorely pissed that i seem to draw these roles that don't allow me to play, if its any consolation i was just talking through my ass, i can barely remember who said what, but i am not going to be able to play until i find out my alignment so i am just never going to guard anyone and assume i am opposite of gamelon. If you believe his i am so innocent speech and latch to my reveal then fine, but i guarded him last night for a reason. Actually scratch that, i am just going to guard gamelon as i dont buy his RI stuff he said it too many times. If the mods see fit to clarify then fine, if not then fine, but i will vote for the player with the most votes and i will not do anything other than guard gamelon. I am not going to make cases, and i aint going to defend myself.

remove vote

vote omtose

[Korlat]

If I have alt guessed Omtose right, he is probably swamped under with work atm.

@mockra: well as I see it you clearly do not want to be scum. otherwise you would not be blowing up on thread like this...

[D'riss]

Mockra, your role is awesome, I'm jealous.

You made it useless by revealing it today, but that's another story.

@Korlat, I fail to see what what he "wants to be" changes to the situation

[Mockra]

Korlat, on Dec 5 2008, 10:56 AM, said:

If I have alt guessed Omtose right, he is probably swamped under with work atm.

@mockra: well as I see it you clearly do not want to be scum. otherwise you would not be blowing up on thread like this...

Personally i would just like to know either way, sorry for going off on one... i will play nice or yellow will hunt me down and kill me.

[Korlat]

Mockra, on Dec 5 2008, 12:54 PM, said:

i am just sorely pissed that i seem to draw these roles that don't allow me to play, if its any consolation i was just talking through my ass, i can barely remember who said what, but i am not going to be able to play until i find out my alignment so i am just never going to guard anyone and assume i am opposite of gamelon. If you believe his i am so innocent speech and latch to my reveal then fine, but i guarded him last night for a reason. Actually scratch that, i am just going to guard gamelon as i dont buy his RI stuff he said it too many times. If the mods see fit to clarify then fine, if not then fine, but i will vote for the player with the most votes and i will not do anything other than guard gamelon. I am not going to make cases, and i aint going to defend myself.

remove vote

vote omtose

Dude seriously wtf?
Think for a second, if the mods have said nothing to you, your winning conditions did not change because he is a RI and not a goodie or a baddie.

[Path-Shaper]

it's day 2, 19 h left in the day, weeknd freeze starts @ 7;30 PM GMT

15 of you are still alive (Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

8 votes to lynch or go to night

2 votes for D'riss: Gamelon, Shadow
1 vote for Mockra : Rashan
5 votes for Omtose : Ruse, Fener, Kaschan, D'riss, Mockra

7 people have not voted: Hood's Path, Omtose, Silanah, , Tennes, Korlat Emurlahn Kessobahn

[Korlat]

D'riss, on Dec 5 2008, 12:58 PM, said:

Mockra, your role is awesome, I'm jealous.

You made it useless by revealing it today, but that's another story.

@Korlat, I fail to see what what he "wants to be" changes to the situation

I do, if I had his role and I wanted to be scum (and lets face it with 2 GBs down it looks a bit bleak for the innos), I would have kept quiet and looked for the GBs, guarded whoever I thought they were and then waited to see what the outcome was. Doing what he has done has just painted himself as a massive threat, which implies he wants to be Inno (at least from my PoV).


Edit: Completed the first bit in brackets

This post has been edited by Korlat: 05 December 2008 - 11:06 AM

[Mockra]

Korlat, on Dec 5 2008, 11:00 AM, said:

Mockra, on Dec 5 2008, 12:54 PM, said:

i am just sorely pissed that i seem to draw these roles that don't allow me to play, if its any consolation i was just talking through my ass, i can barely remember who said what, but i am not going to be able to play until i find out my alignment so i am just never going to guard anyone and assume i am opposite of gamelon. If you believe his i am so innocent speech and latch to my reveal then fine, but i guarded him last night for a reason. Actually scratch that, i am just going to guard gamelon as i dont buy his RI stuff he said it too many times. If the mods see fit to clarify then fine, if not then fine, but i will vote for the player with the most votes and i will not do anything other than guard gamelon. I am not going to make cases, and i aint going to defend myself.

remove vote

vote omtose

Dude seriously wtf?
Think for a second, if the mods have said nothing to you, your winning conditions did not change because he is a RI and not a goodie or a baddie.

You remember this post ok? When we get to spoilers if you are right then i will say well done you were right. I dont bet my card, even for a joke.

[Korlat]

Mockra, on Dec 5 2008, 01:08 PM, said:

Korlat, on Dec 5 2008, 11:00 AM, said:

Dude seriously wtf?
Think for a second, if the mods have said nothing to you, your winning conditions did not change because he is a RI and not a goodie or a baddie.

You remember this post ok? When we get to spoilers if you are right then i will say well done you were right. I dont bet my card, even for a joke.

Well I don't have a card, so I have nothing to bet!

Seriously though from the way you have described your role, I believe that you only gain a winning condition if you guard someone and they have a role, I.E. You hinder that sides actions.

I reckon that if Gamelon is RI and as such you guard had no effect. You essentially perved over some poor fool who was scared shitless...

Otherwise he is scum or a GB and if the mods have failed to inform you of your new winning conditions then you have every right to be pissed off, but surely a pm to them should clear this up and if they evade we get em

[Korlat]

All alone it would appear, oh well, if Omtose does not get on and defend himself, I am willing to vote him.

Will look at the D'riss case though and as for Rashan's vote on Mockra, I think I will chalk it up as a weak scum/stupid move.

But right now I have to go and am not sure when I will be back on.

[Ruse]

So I'm trying to look at the D'riss case, as that seems to be the other one that is picking up steam, but I don't really see very much about. He makes a few weird comments after the NK that Gamelon is ticked the wrong way by, though they don't really look scummy to me, just annoying. So Gamelon's vote stays on him after he votes for HP. I can see good reasons for voting for HP, given that we can't be sure whether the content of that drunken post was actually the truth (although Liosan being a GB would suggest not). So I'd like to know if Gamelon can expand on/clarify his reasons for going after D'riss.