[D'riss]

 Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 08:08 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 05:31 PM, said:

no, Hood's Path joke.

Your method of finding the other GhostBusters by elimination has already been understood by your scum masters before this post, you don't need to repeat it.


edit: at Gamelon

Sorry, dinner called.

Someone said that we had a drunken post to go by at last, but couldn't understand it so couldn't get the scum, and HP quoted it and said what he said.

And, for your information, I am not a symp lol.

But I sure am glad y'all are thinking bout me..

"lol"? Good defense

[Thyrllan]

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 05:57 PM, said:

Hood's Path is back, I don't know about Gamelon, but still neither answer me.

It's a simple question, you don't need to ignore it like that.

Kess was distansing him self from Gam today. I am thinkign these 3 could be scum. Prety certain i am not the only one lookin at these. mwwwaaahhhh!!!

the problem is that so much info is easy over looked when you have a strong handed spammer. hard to see past what they have said.

Back to the grind. bbiab.

[Thyrllan]

 Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 06:08 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 05:31 PM, said:

no, Hood's Path joke.

Your method of finding the other GhostBusters by elimination has already been understood by your scum masters before this post, you don't need to repeat it.


edit: at Gamelon

Sorry, dinner called.

Someone said that we had a drunken post to go by at last, but couldn't understand it so couldn't get the scum, and HP quoted it and said what he said.

And, for your information, I am not a symp lol.

But I sure am glad y'all are thinking bout me..

you a killer scoughing at us then? something for you to laugh at us about later in sh??

[Gamelon]

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 06:12 PM, said:

 Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 08:08 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 05:31 PM, said:

no, Hood's Path joke.

Your method of finding the other GhostBusters by elimination has already been understood by your scum masters before this post, you don't need to repeat it.


edit: at Gamelon

Sorry, dinner called.

Someone said that we had a drunken post to go by at last, but couldn't understand it so couldn't get the scum, and HP quoted it and said what he said.

And, for your information, I am not a symp lol.

But I sure am glad y'all are thinking bout me..

"lol"? Good defense

I don't need to defend myself from that, for two reasons-1) I ain't scum, and 2) I'm basing this solely on the assumption that the GB are lovers, which is probably wrong, but dang it, at least it gives us somewhere to go than doing the usual stuff over and over, hitting no scum till Day Four when only quiet people who are helpful in such a way to avoid getting killed are left. Its the one thing I agree with Kessobahn on, we ain't playing this game right.
Oh, and I'm laughing because in the last few games I played, I always get labelled symp at some point early on, but only when I'm inno, and its getting a might predictable. It's just my playstyle, folks. But whatever, lynching me isn't as much of a loss as lynching a GB, so if it has to be done, it has to be done.

editted for grammar and spelling and clarity.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 04 December 2008 - 06:19 PM

[D'riss]

 Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 08:18 PM, said:

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I don't need to defend myself from that, for two reasons-1) I ain't scum, and 2) I'm basing this solely on the assumption that the GB are lovers, which is probably wrong, but dang it, at least it gives us somewhere to go than doing the usual stuff over and over, hitting no scum till Day Four when only quiet people who are helpful in such a way to avoid getting killed are left. Its the one thing I agree with Kessobahn on, we ain't playing this game right.
Oh, and I'm laughing because in the last few games I played, I always get labelled symp at some point early on, but only when I'm inno, and its getting a might predictable. It's just my playstyle, folks. But whatever, lynching me isn't as much of a loss as lynching a GB, so if it has to be done, it has to be done.

editted for grammar and spelling and clarity.

Well Pahtnah, next time y'all come up with a smaht way to see if a playah is inno-roled or inno-unroled, how 'bout y'all keep it for your horse's ear or for spoilah heaven if y'all enjoy the feeling of feelin' smart?

We godda deal?

[D'riss]

And FYI, if I was always labeled as symp early in the games, I wouldn't go "lol", but wonder at the reasons.

[Fener]

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 10:26 AM, said:

And FYI, if I was always labeled as symp early in the games, I wouldn't go "lol", but wonder at the reasons.

Unless you weren't a symp... then you would probably just go "lol".... he is playing like he always plays, barring the annoying fake accent. The only reason to really wonder that is if you actually are a symp and need to stop behaving that way, or if you want to know for the next time you are a symp in a game and don't want to giv off those vibes. just my opinion.

[Gamelon]

Well, D'riss seems a bit aggressive tonight, so...

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 11:44 AM, said:

OK, done.

Phew, that's lots of info.

For now, I'll

vote Liosan

His hissy fit sounded fake. No offense to the guy, but he did have a general behavior I didn't like too much, before Kessobahn started to give him the Kesso-Love™. Reacting like that makes no sense whatsoever, I think he's trying to cruise on the recent spat of pissed-off innos.

That, and HP basically admitted to be his co-killer, so if it turns out to be true, then we got two for the price of one

His hissy fit sounded fake, and someone, very drunk, but by no means an idiot, joked about him being his partner.
Silencer always plays quiet, my guess now is having people complain about it and bet their card he's scum because of it, and so on, when he had a good role, just fucked him off. Understandable.
Voting for himself with a role like that was silly, but hey, we all make mistakes. At the time, I agree, I saw his hissy fit as seeming dodgy.
General behaviour before Kessobahn went after him? Didn't he post what, once? Twice?

Great reasoning.

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 12:25 PM, said:

OK, I hope people will show up and finish the Liosan lynch.

If anything, see it this way: HP admitted to be his killer partner. Two scenarios:

1) HP was drunk and he pulled an Anomander
2) HP was sober and acted for our entertainment.

I fail to see the point of 2) because lying like that will get him lynched tomorrow, so I hope it's 1). But worst case, Liosan is inno and we lynch HP next, and we're down one scum

If he's inno and lied to us about being killer paired to Liosan he deserves some mob justice after the game.

Worst case is their both inno, and one was roled, so I don't think that stands. Hungry D'riss is hungry to lynch, based on not very much at all. The Anomandaris thing was a fluke, plain and simple. It's not going to happen two games later, in a post that is, imo, fairly obviously a joke, something I said at the time.

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 02:45 PM, said:

 Rashan, on Dec 4 2008, 04:37 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 03:34 PM, said:

You guys realize that HP said "how did you guess me and Liosan are killers"?

I'm not saying we should take it at face value, but I'm quite certain that this is reason enough to get Liosan lynched today. Talking about connections and self-vote is only extra IMO

It's not that I am totally against lynching Liosan. It just seems...orchestrated. I don't like that. But if we'll take a steady look at the Kesso-Gamelon-Mockra connection coming day, then I could settle for lynching Liosan. I guess we need that out of the way, so to speak.

You guys blow my mind.

I'm off now until the end of day, if Liosan doesn't get lynched today I'll cry. Honestly.

"Quickly, people, quickly, feed me blood!"

Is it just me, or did D'riss really seem to be pushing for a Liosan lynch?

Bear in mind that before these posts he had close to zero content. Still doesn't have much.

And apologies for losing the Texan. He's ticked me off by being such a twat tonight. The game is not about keeping your opinions to yourself, as you said yourself earlier D'riss, its about teamwork, so I don't think there should be any problems with me sharing my ideas. In fact, any method of finding scum would be nice.

You might try it yourself next time.

That's all, y'all.

[Gamelon]

 Fener, on Dec 4 2008, 06:35 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 10:26 AM, said:

And FYI, if I was always labeled as symp early in the games, I wouldn't go "lol", but wonder at the reasons.

Unless you weren't a symp... then you would probably just go "lol".... he is playing like he always plays, barring the annoying fake accent. The only reason to really wonder that is if you actually are a symp and need to stop behaving that way, or if you want to know for the next time you are a symp in a game and don't want to giv off those vibes. just my opinion.

Basing on meta. I know its not a good idea to stop you coming to my defence and all, but look what happened when Rashan based DiBs on meta last game.

And damn, was hoping the Texan might slow me being alt-guessed haha.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 04 December 2008 - 06:46 PM

[Gamelon]

And lastly, every case D'riss used to justify his vote on Liosan was just a parroted-back case from either Kessobahn, or someone else. As far as I can see, he ain't had much in the way of original ideas.

[D'riss]

 Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

Is it just me, or did D'riss really seem to be pushing for a Liosan lynch?

Bear in mind that before these posts he had close to zero content. Still doesn't have much.

And apologies for losing the Texan. He's ticked me off by being such a twat tonight. The game is not about keeping your opinions to yourself, as you said yourself earlier D'riss, its about teamwork, so I don't think there should be any problems with me sharing my ideas. In fact, any method of finding scum would be nice.

You might try it yourself next time.

That's all, y'all.

So you guessed I was pushing for a Liosan lynch? Really?

My point is that the quality of the game has gone down recently IMO, because people are more obsessed about themselves than the game. Being called "scum" is apparently a personnal insult. An inno CF is apparently a sign of self-righteousness, a "good boy" card that can be flashed when you die with the satisfaction that you didn't get lynched because you played badly but because the others are wrong, i.e. idiots.

I am twat tonight, maybe. You comment: "hey guys, here's a though on how we can separate the unroled innos/killers, and the roled innos. I'll post it a few times on thread during the night because that's content. Content is good.".

Why on the earth would it come to your mind to put this on thread? To sound intelligent? That's what SH is for, so send that shit there. The thread is not the "I'm smart" place, it's the GAME AREA. If you're inno, then think. But when someone calls you because of that, don't say "lol". The point of a symp is to disrupt the thread and help the killers. If you're called a symp often, then which one is it? Specially early in the game, before we even know who the killers are.

As for me posting content, well is it my fault if I want to resolve the Liosan self-vote and the "Me and Liosan are scum" post before we move one? Or should I always ignore the most obvious scum comments I see just in case it's an inno joshing with me? I've had to do that a lot these last games, keep the joshing for the Inn. It IS possible to BOTH be funny, have fun and play well in the game thread.

[Fener]

 Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 10:38 AM, said:

 Fener, on Dec 4 2008, 06:35 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 10:26 AM, said:

And FYI, if I was always labeled as symp early in the games, I wouldn't go "lol", but wonder at the reasons.

Unless you weren't a symp... then you would probably just go "lol".... he is playing like he always plays, barring the annoying fake accent. The only reason to really wonder that is if you actually are a symp and need to stop behaving that way, or if you want to know for the next time you are a symp in a game and don't want to giv off those vibes. just my opinion.

Basing on meta. I know its not a good idea to stop you coming to my defence and all, but look what happened when I based DiBs on meta last time.

And damn, was hoping the Texan might slow me being alt-guessed haha.

Meh, the meta was a side note. Honestly, if you are inno.. who cares if people think you are a symp... use it to your advantage... fake symp who you think is scum The only time you care if people think you are a symp is if you actually are a symp... Look at Mockra's case on Game being the symp for liosan..it was a good case, seemed to fit, he voted the person he thought the killer was.. to no avail. If Game was a symp the person he was symping was Liosan and he is a roled inno , are there such things as innocent symps? Oh yeah, they are calles RI's

is it me or have the last couple games really focused more on symp behavior than killer behavior? Dangerious precedent there.

And yes... I guess I am symping Gamelon here but I think we need to focus our attention away from the loud talkers.

[D'riss]

 Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

And lastly, every case D'riss used to justify his vote on Liosan was just a parroted-back case from either Kessobahn, or someone else. As far as I can see, he ain't had much in the way of original ideas.

I voted Liosan because of his self-vote, and HP's post. I said it when I posted, and when I was pushing for the lynch. I don't give a shit what other's cases were and why they voted, that was enough for me.

I don't base my view on what other's view is, I just read, think and post. I don't need the satisfaction of being original, and if someone else I don't trust thinks like me, I won't start thinking the opposite.

[Gamelon]

 D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 06:47 PM, said:

 Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

Is it just me, or did D'riss really seem to be pushing for a Liosan lynch?

Bear in mind that before these posts he had close to zero content. Still doesn't have much.

And apologies for losing the Texan. He's ticked me off by being such a twat tonight. The game is not about keeping your opinions to yourself, as you said yourself earlier D'riss, its about teamwork, so I don't think there should be any problems with me sharing my ideas. In fact, any method of finding scum would be nice.

You might try it yourself next time.

That's all, y'all.

So you guessed I was pushing for a Liosan lynch? Really?

My point is that the quality of the game has gone down recently IMO, because people are more obsessed about themselves than the game. Being called "scum" is apparently a personnal insult. An inno CF is apparently a sign of self-righteousness, a "good boy" card that can be flashed when you die with the satisfaction that you didn't get lynched because you played badly but because the others are wrong, i.e. idiots.
Good. We're agreed here.
I am twat tonight, maybe. You comment: "hey guys, here's a though on how we can separate the unroled innos/killers, and the roled innos. I'll post it a few times on thread during the night because that's content. Content is good.".
It's not a particularly smart idea. And yes, content is good. Well done. I'm glad we agree.
Why on the earth would it come to your mind to put this on thread? To sound intelligent? That's what SH is for, so send that shit there. The thread is not the "I'm smart" place, it's the GAME AREA. If you're inno, then think. But when someone calls you because of that, don't say "lol". The point of a symp is to disrupt the thread and help the killers. If you're called a symp often, then which one is it? Specially early in the game, before we even know who the killers are.
Did I say "I'm smart"? No. However, seems like your lording over me on your chair of "don't put an idea on thread." And of course, I'm not actually disrupting anything this game. If anything, I think pressing for a lynch and provoking a response from me more along the lines of an attack on playing style as opposed to defending is.
As for me posting content, well is it my fault if I want to resolve the Liosan self-vote and the "Me and Liosan are scum" post before we move one? Or should I always ignore the most obvious scum comments I see just in case it's an inno joshing with me? I've had to do that a lot these last games, keep the joshing for the Inn. It IS possible to BOTH be funny, have fun and play well in the game thread.

Yes, it is. We're agreed again. But that's all play style. And those two things, well, first of all the HP would probably break the game, give the innos a massive advantage, if it was serious. I can see a mod deleting HP's post if he happened to reveal his team on-thread, it would, like I said, more or less break the game, and there was a mod on at that time.
I can't say anything at all for the self-vote, I won't lie.

[Kessobahn]

Sorry guys, I was just sure. I was wrong. I am up for a lynch it seems and will do my best to defend, and to clarify it was a weak case, but a strong day 1 case. I would look at Thyr(for his lack of contribution and then the WTF did you lynch Lio for post). I would look at Mockra for symping. I am also interested that Shadow never came back. Day would have timed out by now, but Shadow never showed back up. Thats my list and reasons.

[Kessobahn]

 Fener, on Dec 4 2008, 01:48 PM, said:

but I think we need to focus our attention away from the loud talkers.

This is a good idea, lets do that! What are you crazy?

[Fener]

As far as I am concerned we really can't blame anyone for lynching Ray.... he fricking self voted and left it there...it was an invitation. How could we assume he was anything but scum because.... why the hell would a roled inno do that to themselves. It just doesn't make sense. None. zero. does not compute. no entiendo. he left us no choice... which basically also makes it a double whammy. we lose a roled inno AND we don't get a whole hell of a lot from the train. It might be interesting to go back and see who was reluctant to jump on.. Could be killers distancing. cause i'll be honest here... if some one came on in 12 hours and got pissed and self voted... I would vote them again. Its is not a tactic that helps team inno.

[Fener]

 Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 11:04 AM, said:

 Fener, on Dec 4 2008, 01:48 PM, said:

but I think we need to focus our attention away from the loud talkers.

This is a good idea, lets do that! What are you crazy?

you're being sarcastic right?

[Emurlahn]

Must say that I'm somewhat taken aback by this being Silencer. Fucking bloody hell, why leave the self vote on, especially if you're one of the Ghostbusters and thus might have a good role? It seems quite amateuristic and that's not like Silencer at all. I agree with D'riss about teamplay and that selfvotes are not helping. We're definately off with a false start, and I for one dislike this immensely.

On the other hand: we often lynch inno's day 1. Usually, we don't know whether they are roled or not, so basically, we're in the same situation as we're in usually after a day 1 inno lynch: was the player roled, and if so, how powerful was his role? We don't know, except that, going by the name, we think he was powerful.

Sad Emurlahn is sad about that.

 Path-Shaper, on Dec 4 2008, 06:45 PM, said:

 Emurlahn, on Dec 4 2008, 10:31 AM, said:

strawmanning (ban that word asap, I hate it and everything it stands for)

This particular mod would like to point out that that is one his favourite mafia terms, and any attempt to ban or defame it will result not only in modkill, but a general air of pissy-ness in that player's direction.

ceterum censeo Strawmanem esse delendam

[Kessobahn]

Would someone alt guess dibs and then vig him, Dibs and vig him for lurking in his real alt and not logging in and contributing. He's been here all day. Logged in as Dibs. If he's scum I'll be pissed that he hung around unalted, lurking in plain sight.