[Ruse]

Hood's Path, on Dec 10 2008, 12:56 AM, said:

Ruse, on Dec 10 2008, 02:53 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Dec 10 2008, 12:45 AM, said:

Kaschan fought strikingly hard to keep Gamelon alive, and you've been doing much the same not only for Gamelon but now also for Kaschan.

Can you show me where this was, please?

Again? Can't you just read the case or something? I'm sorry if I sound a bit grumpy here but I feel like half this game has just been repeating of cases to people who didn't catch them the first time around..

The gist is that Kaschan tried the whole routine of being willing to nail Gamelon, but being pressured he descended into a pseudo argument as to why he wouldn't. An argument that made no sense at all. He then pounced on Mokcra and refused to look at the Gamelon case in a serious light. More or less exactly like Rashan is doing now

Oh that? I wouldn't call that 'fighting strikingly hard' myself...


As was implied with my thoughts on Emurlahn, I'm not a huge fan of people overstating their cases...

If it wasn't for the slight reprieve the whole RI stuff gives you, I'd probably be trying to make a case on you right now HP...

(And now, another statement ending in an ellipsis...)

[Kaschan]

Oh, and I'd point out: If, HP, you really can trust Mockra, why not just have him Guard me tonight, and see what the result is tomorrow?

I'm guessing ... because you know the result won't benefit you.

[Rashan]

This is exactly why people become sheep in mafia - if you don't get on the train immediately, you get all kinds of comments like "why aren't you voting for the current player tagged as scum?". Hood's path play is the kind of play I hate the most. Even if I knew Kaschan was good, but couldn't tell anyone because I would out a valuable player, I still have to vote for the poor bastard, otherwise I get labeled as scum. I am not saying this is the case, but I very well could have good reasons for hesitating voting for Kaschan. It seriously pisses me off.

The Kaschan case is purely built on an interpretation of his actions. He said he was willing to vote for gamelon, but he had reasons not to. Is making arguments and thinking differently suddenly a criminal offense? I don't get it. Hey, even Emur, with his total freak out is more suitable for a lynch. Hey, even me. But you decide to hone in on Kaschan, and everyone that makes an argument against must be scum? Wtf! GET A BLOODY GRIP! The case has nothing of relevant content in it, and I stand by that assessment.




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This post has been edited by Rashan: 10 December 2008 - 01:16 AM

[Ruse]

@Rash: I guess it all depends on the CF, doesn't it? If it comes back inno, then the suspicion falls not on you but on the people pushing for Kasch's lynch. Of course, if he's scum...


I'm still sitting on the fence on this one. On the one hand, Kaschan really hasn't contributed much. On the other, the case is not particularly strong. I'm going to be around for another couple of hours yet, so I've got a while to make a decision. (Someone else might come on and make it for me, I suppose). Will be back in about 45 to check for comments.

[Hood's Path]

Rashan, on Dec 10 2008, 03:12 AM, said:

This is exactly why people becomes sheep in mafia - if you don't get on the train immediately, you get all kinds of comments like "why aren't you voting for the current player tagged as scum?". Hood's path play is the kind of play I hate the most. Even if I knew Kaschan was good, but couldn't tell anyone because I would out a valuable player, I still have to vote for the poor bastard, otherwise I get labeled as scum. I am not saying this is the case, but I very well could have good reasons for hesitating voting for Kaschan. Is seriously pisses me off.

The Kaschan case is purely built on an interpretation of his actions. He said he was willing to vote for gamelon, but he had reasons not to. Is making arguments and thinking differently suddenly a criminal offense? I don't get it. Hey, even Emur, with his total freak out is more suitable for a lynch. Hey, even me. But you decide to hone in on Kaschan, and everyone that makes an argument against must be scum? Wtf! GET A BLOODY GRIP! The case has nothing of relevant content in it, and I stand by that assessment.

Oh for crying out loud! Have you not noticed that several people have decided not to vote for Kaschan and that I have not claimed them to be guilty, Evi, or whatever. Stop this victim routine of yours. It's not true and you know that as well as I do. You've realised that there's little you can say in Kaschan's defence that would ring through and so you're trying to discredit my arguments through other claims about what they are and why I am making them. These claims are false and I am pretty sure that people see that. I've said why I think you're guilty. I've said why I think Kaschan is guilty. Ruse is probably right that I am overestimating my case but I am still damned well convinced that Kaschan is evil and you're his partner. How you've acted under pressure has strenghtened that view considerably.

You can hiss and fume all you want but the fact remains that I've asked you a number of questions regarding all of this and you've yet to answer any of them. Kaschan will come up evil, all you've managed to do is to convince me even more.

[Kessobahn]

Rashan, on Dec 9 2008, 08:12 PM, said:

This is exactly why people become sheep in mafia - if you don't get on the train immediately, you get all kinds of comments like "why aren't you voting for the current player tagged as scum?". Hood's path play is the kind of play I hate the most. Even if I knew Kaschan was good, but couldn't tell anyone because I would out a valuable player, I still have to vote for the poor bastard, otherwise I get labeled as scum. I am not saying this is the case, but I very well could have good reasons for hesitating voting for Kaschan. It seriously pisses me off.

The Kaschan case is purely built on an interpretation of his actions. He said he was willing to vote for gamelon, but he had reasons not to. Is making arguments and thinking differently suddenly a criminal offense? I don't get it. Hey, even Emur, with his total freak out is more suitable for a lynch. Hey, even me. But you decide to hone in on Kaschan, and everyone that makes an argument against must be scum? Wtf! GET A BLOODY GRIP! The case has nothing of relevant content in it, and I stand by that assessment.
Edit: spelling

Back. And I think this is true. Except that we always need to get a lynch, every day, no freebies for the killers, ever. So We have 5 hours and no chance of any other lynch, so Its Kas or nothing. If Kas comes up inno, we look elsewhere, thems the breaks kid. But if you don't hammer, we lose a days lynch and the killers get a free night.

[Rashan]

Ruse, on Dec 10 2008, 02:19 AM, said:

@Rash: I guess it all depends on the CF, doesn't it? If it comes back inno, then the suspicion falls not on you but on the people pushing for Kasch's lynch. Of course, if he's scum...


I'm still sitting on the fence on this one. On the one hand, Kaschan really hasn't contributed much. On the other, the case is not particularly strong. I'm going to be around for another couple of hours yet, so I've got a while to make a decision. (Someone else might come on and make it for me, I suppose). Will be back in about 45 to check for comments.

If he's indeed scum, you got lucky. Because it's a lousy case. If you're gonna lynch me for not agreeing with a lousy case, I would seriously doubt you had any brains at all. And no, again, it's not a strong case. It's just that it happens to be a train on Kashan. I am trying my best not to be a sheep, I should get some credit for it. But no, instead I get spit on.

[Rashan]

Kessobahn, on Dec 10 2008, 02:22 AM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 9 2008, 08:12 PM, said:

This is exactly why people become sheep in mafia - if you don't get on the train immediately, you get all kinds of comments like "why aren't you voting for the current player tagged as scum?". Hood's path play is the kind of play I hate the most. Even if I knew Kaschan was good, but couldn't tell anyone because I would out a valuable player, I still have to vote for the poor bastard, otherwise I get labeled as scum. I am not saying this is the case, but I very well could have good reasons for hesitating voting for Kaschan. It seriously pisses me off.

The Kaschan case is purely built on an interpretation of his actions. He said he was willing to vote for gamelon, but he had reasons not to. Is making arguments and thinking differently suddenly a criminal offense? I don't get it. Hey, even Emur, with his total freak out is more suitable for a lynch. Hey, even me. But you decide to hone in on Kaschan, and everyone that makes an argument against must be scum? Wtf! GET A BLOODY GRIP! The case has nothing of relevant content in it, and I stand by that assessment.
Edit: spelling

Back. And I think this is true. Except that we always need to get a lynch, every day, no freebies for the killers, ever. So We have 5 hours and no chance of any other lynch, so Its Kas or nothing. If Kas comes up inno, we look elsewhere, thems the breaks kid. But if you don't hammer, we lose a days lynch and the killers get a free night.

For the record, I've never said I wouldn't vote for Kaschan if it comes to that. But I refuse to be a sheep!

And Hood's path, all I hear is "blah blah blah". Still no relevant content. Just because you say "my case is convincing" a thousand times doesn't mean it is.
Aww, you feel I discredit your arguments? HAHAHAHA! That's hilarious, because you've been saying false things about me in many of your posts. Making stuff up must make you so proud. Convincing case my ass.

[Kessobahn]

I am trying my best not to be a sheep, I should get some credit for it. But no, instead I get spit on.
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HA!

Anyway, we have had 36 plus hours to make a case, sure its weaker than we'd like, but nothing is better and we don't have 7 people available to get another lynch. Again its Kas or noting, thats the choice, if you choose nothing, fine you made a stand, if he's guilty you pay for that, but don't get all high and mighty because we won't let the no lynch hapen.

[Rashan]

Hood's Path, on Dec 10 2008, 02:21 AM, said:

You can hiss and fume all you want but the fact remains that I've asked you a number of questions regarding all of this and you've yet to answer any of them. Kaschan will come up evil, all you've managed to do is to convince me even more.

Questions? WTF? The only questions I have seen is: "why won't you see my case is brilliant?" "Why don't you bow down to my awesomeness?" etc. NO. RELEVANT. CONTENT.

[Hood's Path]

Rashan, on Dec 10 2008, 03:23 AM, said:

Ruse, on Dec 10 2008, 02:19 AM, said:

@Rash: I guess it all depends on the CF, doesn't it? If it comes back inno, then the suspicion falls not on you but on the people pushing for Kasch's lynch. Of course, if he's scum...


I'm still sitting on the fence on this one. On the one hand, Kaschan really hasn't contributed much. On the other, the case is not particularly strong. I'm going to be around for another couple of hours yet, so I've got a while to make a decision. (Someone else might come on and make it for me, I suppose). Will be back in about 45 to check for comments.

If he's indeed scum, you got lucky. Because it's a lousy case. If you're gonna lynch me for not agreeing with a lousy case, I would seriously doubt you had any brains at all. And no, again, it's not a strong case. It's just that it happens to be a train on Kashan. I am trying my best not to be a sheep, I should get some credit for it. But no, instead I get spit on.

oh cry me a fucking river. If you're going to play the victim every time you're asked to explain why you disagree with more words than just; "I disagree", then I see little point in discussing anything with you.

The last few posts you've laid out coherently and in detail why you do not like the Kaschan case. If you'd done that earlier in the day I would've been less convinced of your guilt. But the fact that you needed this much pressure to voice an opinion that will have an effect on your standing speaks volumes.

[Kessobahn]

Rashan, on Dec 9 2008, 08:27 PM, said:

For the record, I've never said I wouldn't vote for Kaschan if it comes to that. But I refuse to be a sheep!

Then drop the hammer and lets move on. K thanx bie!

[Rashan]

Hood's Path, on Dec 10 2008, 02:30 AM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 10 2008, 03:23 AM, said:

Ruse, on Dec 10 2008, 02:19 AM, said:

@Rash: I guess it all depends on the CF, doesn't it? If it comes back inno, then the suspicion falls not on you but on the people pushing for Kasch's lynch. Of course, if he's scum...


I'm still sitting on the fence on this one. On the one hand, Kaschan really hasn't contributed much. On the other, the case is not particularly strong. I'm going to be around for another couple of hours yet, so I've got a while to make a decision. (Someone else might come on and make it for me, I suppose). Will be back in about 45 to check for comments.

If he's indeed scum, you got lucky. Because it's a lousy case. If you're gonna lynch me for not agreeing with a lousy case, I would seriously doubt you had any brains at all. And no, again, it's not a strong case. It's just that it happens to be a train on Kashan. I am trying my best not to be a sheep, I should get some credit for it. But no, instead I get spit on.

oh cry me a fucking river. If you're going to play the victim every time you're asked to explain why you disagree with more words than just; "I disagree", then I see little point in discussing anything with you.

The last few posts you've laid out coherently and in detail why you do not like the Kaschan case. If you'd done that earlier in the day I would've been less convinced of your guilt. But the fact that you needed this much pressure to voice an opinion that will have an effect on your standing speaks volumes.

The only reason I didn't say anything earlier is because I thought it was obvious. I didn't think everyone would fall on the train like a herd of sheep! You can go on and moan about "speaking volumes" all you want. It doesn't make it any more true.

[Hood's Path]

Rashan, on Dec 10 2008, 03:32 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Dec 10 2008, 02:30 AM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 10 2008, 03:23 AM, said:

Ruse, on Dec 10 2008, 02:19 AM, said:

@Rash: I guess it all depends on the CF, doesn't it? If it comes back inno, then the suspicion falls not on you but on the people pushing for Kasch's lynch. Of course, if he's scum...


I'm still sitting on the fence on this one. On the one hand, Kaschan really hasn't contributed much. On the other, the case is not particularly strong. I'm going to be around for another couple of hours yet, so I've got a while to make a decision. (Someone else might come on and make it for me, I suppose). Will be back in about 45 to check for comments.

If he's indeed scum, you got lucky. Because it's a lousy case. If you're gonna lynch me for not agreeing with a lousy case, I would seriously doubt you had any brains at all. And no, again, it's not a strong case. It's just that it happens to be a train on Kashan. I am trying my best not to be a sheep, I should get some credit for it. But no, instead I get spit on.

yeah, cause you know, the kaschan train has been one hell of a speed lynch. In a blink of an eye and he got lynched. Hours and hours and hours left before the deadline

oh cry me a fucking river. If you're going to play the victim every time you're asked to explain why you disagree with more words than just; "I disagree", then I see little point in discussing anything with you.

The last few posts you've laid out coherently and in detail why you do not like the Kaschan case. If you'd done that earlier in the day I would've been less convinced of your guilt. But the fact that you needed this much pressure to voice an opinion that will have an effect on your standing speaks volumes.

The only reason I didn't say anything earlier is because I thought it was obvious. I didn't think everyone would fall on the train like a herd of sheep! You can go on and moan about "speaking volumes" all you want. It doesn't make it any more true.

[Rashan]

Kessobahn, on Dec 10 2008, 02:28 AM, said:

Quote

I am trying my best not to be a sheep, I should get some credit for it. But no, instead I get spit on.

HA!

Anyway, we have had 36 plus hours to make a case, sure its weaker than we'd like, but nothing is better and we don't have 7 people available to get another lynch. Again its Kas or noting, thats the choice, if you choose nothing, fine you made a stand, if he's guilty you pay for that, but don't get all high and mighty because we won't let the no lynch hapen.

I am quite aware of the fact that I don't have a choice in this matter. We need that lynch. I'm not as upset about it as it seems - the only thing I am upset about is Hood's path's attitude, like he owns the game or something. It's bloody annoying. It makes me wanna shoot Kaschan up his ass, if you don't mind me being frank.

*deep breath*

[Hood's Path]

huh? I was saying that the speed lynching of Kaschan took me completly by surprise too. I mean, there's at least more than an hour left of the day. Absurd!

[Kessobahn]

Wat?

[Kessobahn]

Rashan, on Dec 9 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

if you don't mind me being frank.
*deep breath*

Be frank if you want, I'll be bob. But hammer the fucker.

[Hood's Path]

Kaschan, on Dec 10 2008, 03:05 AM, said:

Oh, and I'd point out: If, HP, you really can trust Mockra, why not just have him Guard me tonight, and see what the result is tomorrow?

I'm guessing ... because you know the result won't benefit you.

how does that make any sense?

ah well, I need my sleep

[Rashan]

*deep breath*

Lets hope we hit a scum, because then I'll at least have done something worthwhile in this game - which also probably means you will lynch me, but I guess that's a fair trade off.


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