[D'riss]

Rashan, on Dec 9 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

Man, this is not good. Lets hope the evils doesn't hit another GB.



Edit: phew! I read that wrong. I thought it was night. Ugh.

What is not good?

[Fener]

Tennes, on Dec 9 2008, 04:44 AM, said:

The curtains flew and then he appeared, saying dont be afraid...

Im here.

vote kaschan

mainly for trying not to lynch dana, as soon as she revealed, and then hopping on later.

So because he didn't jump the gun and wanted to think things through, then deciding to vote makes him Scum? Look I am not trying to defend Kasch here, and D'riss' case does shed some light on some admittedly odd behavior, but Tennes reasoning is flawed and to me looks like he is just voting to vote. Dana in the movie was a good guy for like 3/4 of the movie. Only when she got possesed did she turn evil. ( I might venture to say that one of the GB powers might be to un posses Louis and Dana) in all probability Lish didn't get turned night one and was inno at the time of the lynch. At first I didn't want to lynch her because this. Only after the discussion and talking it out it became pretty obvious that she would become possesable (that from the mouth of one of our dead ghostbusters) and had to go if only to keep her from the scum. If that behavior is a lynchable offense then I am up for lynch next.

D'riss, on Dec 9 2008, 10:30 AM, said:

I think my most coherent case was in this post:

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 12:06 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 10:02 AM, said:

Headed off to bed soon. Looks like everyone's just kind of shuffling their feet, wondering if we should lynch people who aren't really scum ... but, well, aren't really Inno. I think Mockra probably already is scum, and is playing some kind of game with us. No idea how much truth or untruth there is to Mockra and Gamelon's stories, or Kesso's not-too-subtly encoded maybe reveal.

Does that look like a guy who wants to get involved in the game? No, it looks like a guy who's trying to stall a lynch.


He gets called:

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 10:56 AM, said:

Oh, I'm still here. I just hate to put someone at L-1 right before I leave for a while, especially without a mod around.

Lack of resolution and all that.

So why are you waiting to be "right before you leave for a while" to vote? You were around an hour earlier.

But now HP calls you out:

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 10:58 AM, said:

In fact, now that we've got six people on, and I won't have to wait long:


Vote Gamelon

Where's the mod? Nowhere, so even if a hammer comes you won't get "resolution" any more than when you made your first post.

Like I said, it makes no sense. But let's see Gamelon's CF first.

Add his morning vote-Mockra-then-buh-bye antics.

@ D'riss ok, this makes more sense. I just don't know if a killer it makes. Seems kind of weak.

at the moment I would like to look at others, but we only have 10 hours left and I am not sure I will be around for a lynch. So I might have to leave it on Kaschan if only to get a lynch. I'm just not convinced he is scum.

Does anyone else find Tennes reason for voting a bit contrived? Add to that the fact that after I voted Tennes and accused him of not playing, he pops on and has basically been running the thread since then. Does no one see this? or is it just be because I am biased?

At the moment there are 5 votes on Kasch I am betting we have 1 killer on that train and one not on the train. That leaves in my eyes (original killers, I am discounting Mockra as he might be bad, but not a killer) , Tennes and D'riss on the train, and Kasch, Rash, Korlat, and Emur off. D'riss has been squeaky clean up to this point which in and of itself is unsettling, Tennes has just been argumentative and sowing confusion.

Of the 4 off train: Kasch has his shady behavior, Rash claims RI but can't back it up, Korlat......, Emur is kind of an enigma. He was convinced Kess was a symp, which isn't the case, but based on his behavior I thought so too. But iirc thats really the only case he made. Ruse did you find anything on Emur?

[Ruse]

I'll go over and reread it, but just being a little indecisive about hammering doesn't merit a lynch. On the other hand, has Kaschan actually made any cases this game? I don't remember any off the top of my head. I'm going to go and have a look (damn it, I keep getting distracted from my original readup commitments. It's annoying me)

EDIT: @HP

This post has been edited by Ruse: 09 December 2008 - 07:46 PM

[D'riss]

Fener, on Dec 9 2008, 09:44 PM, said:

At the moment there are 5 votes on Kasch I am betting we have 1 killer on that train and one not on the train. That leaves in my eyes (original killers, I am discounting Mockra as he might be bad, but not a killer) , Tennes and D'riss on the train, and Kasch, Rash, Korlat, and Emur off. D'riss has been squeaky clean up to this point which in and of itself is unsettling, Tennes has just been argumentative and sowing confusion.

Of the 4 off train: Kasch has his shady behavior, Rash claims RI but can't back it up, Korlat......, Emur is kind of an enigma. He was convinced Kess was a symp, which isn't the case, but based on his behavior I thought so too. But iirc thats really the only case he made. Ruse did you find anything on Emur?

Err, you know the CF already?

[Rashan]

D'riss, on Dec 9 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 9 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

Man, this is not good. Lets hope the evils doesn't hit another GB.



Edit: phew! I read that wrong. I thought it was night. Ugh.

What is not good?

I read it like the day ended, without us choosing a lynch, which would have been bad. You don't think it would have been?

[Fener]

Hood's Path, on Dec 9 2008, 11:36 AM, said:

Ruse, on Dec 9 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

OK, so at the moment I don't really like a Kaschan lynch on that evidence alone. On reflection, I've been getting a scummy feeling from Emurlahn, so I'm going to try and have a look at him. The RI stuff has been overplayed, IMO, but for now I'm going to look elsewhere.

EDIT: Crosspost with PS

So what would it take to convince you? To my mind Kaschan is by far the best target for today's lynch, even more so now that there's been quite a bit of hot air circulating close to the lynch.

Hot air?

[D'riss]

Rashan, on Dec 9 2008, 09:46 PM, said:

D'riss, on Dec 9 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 9 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

Man, this is not good. Lets hope the evils doesn't hit another GB.



Edit: phew! I read that wrong. I thought it was night. Ugh.

What is not good?

I read it like the day ended, without us choosing a lynch, which would have been bad. You don't think it would have been?

Uh.. yeah?

[Fener]

D'riss, on Dec 9 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

Fener, on Dec 9 2008, 09:44 PM, said:

At the moment there are 5 votes on Kasch I am betting we have 1 killer on that train and one not on the train. That leaves in my eyes (original killers, I am discounting Mockra as he might be bad, but not a killer) , Tennes and D'riss on the train, and Kasch, Rash, Korlat, and Emur off. D'riss has been squeaky clean up to this point which in and of itself is unsettling, Tennes has just been argumentative and sowing confusion.

Of the 4 off train: Kasch has his shady behavior, Rash claims RI but can't back it up, Korlat......, Emur is kind of an enigma. He was convinced Kess was a symp, which isn't the case, but based on his behavior I thought so too. But iirc thats really the only case he made. Ruse did you find anything on Emur?

Err, you know the CF already?

huh? no, thats the current train

[D'riss]

Fener, on Dec 9 2008, 09:49 PM, said:

D'riss, on Dec 9 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

Fener, on Dec 9 2008, 09:44 PM, said:

At the moment there are 5 votes on Kasch I am betting we have 1 killer on that train and one not on the train. That leaves in my eyes (original killers, I am discounting Mockra as he might be bad, but not a killer) , Tennes and D'riss on the train, and Kasch, Rash, Korlat, and Emur off. D'riss has been squeaky clean up to this point which in and of itself is unsettling, Tennes has just been argumentative and sowing confusion.

Of the 4 off train: Kasch has his shady behavior, Rash claims RI but can't back it up, Korlat......, Emur is kind of an enigma. He was convinced Kess was a symp, which isn't the case, but based on his behavior I thought so too. But iirc thats really the only case he made. Ruse did you find anything on Emur?

Err, you know the CF already?

huh? no, thats the current train

Then WTF you judge the voters?

[Fener]

I didn't say I was judging, I am just analyzing. I also said If nothing had been resolved that I was voting Kaschan. I am just saying I don't think he is going to come up scum. If he does, well, then I guess i'll have some questions to answer.

[Fener]

lol, why are you getting so defensive?

[Fener]

out for an hr or 2 this game is odd, very fricking odd.

[D'riss]

OK, sorry for the monosyllabic last few posts, I was talking (i.e. listening to) to my mother on Skype and if I type too fast/strong she hears it and gets pissed

My point Fener, is that there's no problem for you to make new cases and comments about players, but don't use the current lynch train to add anything, it's pretty pointless if you ask me. One killer on the train and one outside? How about one killer as target and the other one lurking? Plus, you judge Kaschan on the fact that he's not on the train, his own train, which is a bit Ionesco-esque

It's like Morckra giganto-case on Gamelon being Liosan's symp on day 1.

[D'riss]

OK, I'm off for bed, will be back in a couple of hours.

[Fener]

D'riss, on Dec 9 2008, 12:06 PM, said:

OK, sorry for the monosyllabic last few posts, I was talking (i.e. listening to) to my mother on Skype and if I type too fast/strong she hears it and gets pissed

My point Fener, is that there's no problem for you to make new cases and comments about players, but don't use the current lynch train to add anything, it's pretty pointless if you ask me. One killer on the train and one outside? How about one killer as target and the other one lurking? Plus, you judge Kaschan on the fact that he's not on the train, his own train, which is a bit Ionesco-esque

It's like Morckra giganto-case on Gamelon being Liosan's symp on day 1.

LOL good point, guess I was assuming inno and based it on that. Point taken.

[Fener]

headed out for a while, not sure when I will be back. Will try to read up as the day goes on.

[Tennes]

Fener-I dont have time to play, you complain, I do have time to play, you complain?

My starting to play more wasnt because one person complained. Im sorry to burst your bubble, but your not so scary as to make me change how I play based on an off-hand comment by you. If I was scum, I sure as hell wouldnt get so scared of one players complaint that i'd start playing more. I simply have more time around now. As for my vote, I voted because he contradicted himself in some thing he said, and seemed to be defending dana. Why defend dana? Yes, she's good for 3/4 of the film. Does that mean we should guess when shes been possessed and lynch her then? She is pretty essential to getting Gozer out and about, in the film, so yes, she may be good 3/4 of the game, but when she's bad, very abd things happen. The other thing:

In the film, she has to find the Keymaster, and the Keymaster find her. Now, im guessing that Keymaster could look for her once a night, as an aciton, and when she was found, bad things start. So her announcing it on thread is NOT good. It means that, as soon as the keymaster wants, he can find her, and whatever would happen, happens. Keeping Dana around to me, seemed a pretty blatantly bad idea, and yet, he seemed against it.

[Fener]

Before I go, Rash- what do you think of Kaschan?

[Tennes]

Shit, inno modkill? Damn, that makes things worse, especially with the amount of GBs we've lost.

[Kessobahn]

Ruse, on Dec 9 2008, 02:16 PM, said:

Damn, one less inno. Makes it quite a bit closer to do or die time...in fact, if there were 4 scum and Mockra is in fact evil, we need a win tonight. *gulp*

You're figuring 4 scum plus a possible Mockra? No way, team scum would be way over powered, 3 scum and a possible Mockra max. IMO. 2 killer ghosts and a symp ghost. No way Yellow gave team evil 4. Right?