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Mafia 35 game thread - Ghostbusters

#1141 User is offline   Kessobahn 

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:17 AM

View PostRashan, on Dec 8 2008, 05:12 PM, said:

Thanks for the summary, makes it alot easier to read up on Korlat.


cough* SYMP cough* lol

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:34 AM

all right.. before ii do all o this. I want to infodrm you tahat I'nm not entirely sober. Nothing as bad ad last time arodns, but my writngs will hardly be top nohch.

View PostKaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

Holy Fuck, again.

Do they have a goddamned Finder?

Oh, and:

Vote Mockra.


We should have done it yesterday. Gamelon was fine, as potential scum, but Mockra is, as far as I can tell, likely to already be turned.

And Kesso, quit being so pitiful. If you're Inno, you should be playing to live, and to help your team win - don't pull a Liosan and deprive us of an Inno.


Potential scum? there's no way in hell Gamelon was a goodie. 1) Mockra would not have acteds as e did if he wasd evil, 2) I can't see how dana could be a good guy.. I believe Mockra is telling the truth, but perhaps tat's just me.

View PostRashan, on Dec 8 2008, 08:42 PM, said:

Although I'm happy we got Gamelon, I'm shocked at loosing another good guy. What are the odds? it must be some sort of record.

After a quick read through it seems Mockra, unsurprisingly, wants to lynch me. I take that as a compliment. :p

I agree that I've had sort of a hissy fit, but that's purely from being RI and watching the scums turn the game to their favor. I'll try to tone it down though, because I do realize it could add to the confusion.

Is it clear that Gamelon was evil? I don't know enough about the movie to tell. I only know what I grasp from wikipedia, which is that Dana got possessed, which would mean we can't be sure if Mockra is good or evil. The CF said Gamelon was Dana, not anything else.
Gonna read up some more now.


A compliment, eh? And you don't think Gamelon was evil? How strange that such a conclusion would clear KAschan, don't yijks think?

View PostFener, on Dec 8 2008, 09:02 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on Dec 8 2008, 10:53 AM, said:

The reason I'm looking at you and Fener is that I haven't looked at you yet. As far as I can remember, noone has put any pressure on you at all, which means I should probably have a go :The Force: . I'm doing D'riss first though - I remember that spat with Gamelon over HP's scum joke thingy from earlier, thought it would be worth a shot. Someone should probably have a look at HP too, now that I think of it. I haven't liked the tone of his recent posts for some reason, and don't think he's seriously being considered by many people. I'll add him to my review list as well.

EDIT: @ Fener


I have no problem with being looked at. I am one of the few RI's that claimed and didn't have to do a true verify. HP i am willing to clear for now because, he is the one that brought up the obviously true statement that RI's really did have a name...even though Gamelon said otherwise. He brought this up out of the dark, with no prompting, and had access to info that only an RI would know. This was later verified by Kess, Ruse, Omtose, and a lesser extent me. (I was the first to see the significance of the HP comment and verified the Kess and Ruse confirmations) Granted I could be scum that was taking some enormous chances... but that would be really really ballsy and I leave it to you to make that determination.


I can't remmebr wuhy I picked out this quotes :S

View PostRashan, on Dec 8 2008, 09:11 PM, said:

View PostFener, on Dec 8 2008, 08:06 PM, said:

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View PostFener, on Dec 8 2008, 07:58 PM, said:

Rash you just claimed RI

Whoa, you're one for stating the obvious.



Humor me here. What is the second letter of your last name.

My role pm didn't give me a last name.


Ah, this just consolidates my claim. Kaschan, Rashan and D'riss are evil. Rashan is obviously not a RI, yet he pretends he is even though the important goodies seems to be dead. I mentioned Rashan as my main candidate for evil earlier, and his playing foellwign sthe lynch and so forth onyl dxstrenghtesn tihsi assumptipn.

Yet, when all this is said, I made it quite clear that I believed Kaschan to be Gamelo's partnr,s and I still thinkn he is. Nothins he
s said has changed that. If anuthing he's only strenghtened it.

Kaschan

Rashan is my second choice and if Kaschan turns up evil, Rashan is evil too

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:35 AM

It is Day 3, you have 28.5 hours left

13 of you are still alive (Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

7 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for Rashan: Fener
1 vote for Mockra : Kaschan
1 vote for Kaschan: D'riss
1 vote for Emurlahn: Kessobahn

9 people have not voted:,Ruse, Omtose, Silanah, Tennes, Korlat, Kaschan, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Rashan
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:41 AM

Uh, think you missed HP's vote there, PS :The Force:.

@HP: I know you're a bit drunk, but any chance you can tell me why you see a connection between Kasch, Rash and D'riss? Your above post didn't really make it clear...

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:41 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Dec 9 2008, 03:35 AM, said:

It is Day 3, you have 28.5 hours left

13 of you are still alive (Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

7 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for Rashan: Fener
1 vote for Mockra : Kaschan
1 vote for Kaschan: D'riss
1 vote for Emurlahn: Kessobahn

9 people have not voted:,Ruse, Omtose, Silanah, Tennes, Korlat, Kaschan, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Rashan


lies!

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 02:12 AM

meh, t'was a crosspost


It is Day 3, you have 28 hours left

13 of you are still alive (Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

7 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for Rashan: Fener
1 vote for Mockra : Kaschan
2 votes for Kaschan: D'riss, Hood's Path
1 vote for Emurlahn: Kessobahn

8 people have not voted:,Ruse, Omtose, Silanah, Tennes, Korlat, Kaschan, Emurlahn, Rashan

Tired mod is tired and may call it an early night today.... possibly
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 02:15 AM

... are we back?

We're back. I'm back.

@D'riss: Yes, I posted a quick vote and left this morning. Because it was, you know, morning. Quick catching up re-read, then out the door for a good long while. Exactly why I wanted something to happen last night (night to me, not you), so that I could take stock and be done with whatever info we got from Gamelon's lynch. It's a lot easier to catch up on some Night spam then on a long, winding discussion about whether or not to finish someone off.

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Potential scum? there's no way in hell Gamelon was a goodie. 1) Mockra would not have acteds as e did if he wasd evil, 2) I can't see how dana could be a good guy.. I believe Mockra is telling the truth, but perhaps tat's just me.


I meant "potential" as in "could become," not "maybe he is, maybe he isn't." I believe I explained my priorities - Gamelon could possibly become evil, but if we go by movie plot there needs to be a trigger; Mockra has a good chance of already being evil. No idea why you want to trust him now, when the mechanics of his role are so impossible to verify, much less the things he says. You're pushing to rely on someone who may very well have been turned the first Night.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 02:19 AM

OK, I have no idea how to delete a post in the new board. A little help here?

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 02:25 AM

mafia alts can't delete posts.
only mods can do it for them

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 07:13 AM

It is Day 3, you have 22 hours 45 mins left

13 of you are still alive (Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

7 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for Rashan: Fener
1 vote for Mockra : Kaschan
2 votes for Kaschan: D'riss, Hood's Path
1 vote for Emurlahn: Kessobahn

8 people have not voted:,Ruse, Omtose, Silanah, Tennes, Korlat, Kaschan, Emurlahn, Rashan

Easiest thread catch-up ever :The Force:
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 07:28 AM

catching up

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 08:00 AM

View PostHood's Path, on Dec 9 2008, 03:34 AM, said:

Ah, this just consolidates my claim. Kaschan, Rashan and D'riss are evil. Rashan is obviously not a RI, yet he pretends he is even though the important goodies seems to be dead. I mentioned Rashan as my main candidate for evil earlier, and his playing foellwign sthe lynch and so forth onyl dxstrenghtesn tihsi assumptipn.

Yet, when all this is said, I made it quite clear that I believed Kaschan to be Gamelo's partnr,s and I still thinkn he is. Nothins he
s said has changed that. If anuthing he's only strenghtened it.

Kaschan

Rashan is my second choice and if Kaschan turns up evil, Rashan is evil too


And D'riss? Where does that come from? Ironically I agree with everything else you said, I even vote Kaschan too.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 09:33 AM

Can the mods clarify something, at the start of the game when liosan died you posted the full character name, yet recently you have reduced this down to one name, can you give us the full character name for every death again please, as would be seen by the player in their role pm?

My reasoning, if rashan says he only got one name, the only roles i can think of that wouldn't have a last name (mine included) are paranormal such as zul or gozer. the gb must have received their full dr blahdy blah, and i need to check if gamelon got his full name. So stop scrimpin on the detail pathshaper!

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 09:44 AM

View PostRuse, on Dec 9 2008, 03:41 AM, said:

Uh, think you missed HP's vote there, PS :The Force: .

@HP: I know you're a bit drunk, but any chance you can tell me why you see a connection between Kasch, Rash and D'riss? Your above post didn't really make it clear...


Sorry, I fell asleep on the couch and when I woke up I just got into bed.

Right, I'll try to answer you, and at the same time cover D'riss question below.

Kaschan I think I've shown to be connected to Gamelon in style of play. His attempts to discredit and divert the Gamelon train, and his irrational reasons for not voting, only doing so upon being questioned as Gamelon's partner. That's the gist of it.

Rashan has been doing more or less the same, yet somewhat better. He's also been diverting attention from Gamelon and now Kaschan. He lied about being a RI, and when all is said and done there's only one character I think with but one name, and that's not a good guy. Not to mention that Rashan was at the heart of the shit throwing fest during the week end, which removed the chance of any intelligent discussion happening during that time.

Now, D'riss is different. Here there's more gut involved than anything. First and foremost I reacted to his strange obsession with my early joke post, and how he even voted based on that and that alone. Now he's the first to vote Kaschan, which could clear him but it could also be a scum gamble. Kaschan seems the best candidate for a lynch and so an early vote could label him a PI. It would be something like how Mexal did his killer role back in the day.

In the end though, D'riss is the player I'm least certain of at this point when it comes to being a killer. It all depends on the CF result of Kaschan I think. If Kaschan turns up guilty I think Rashan (see, the names even match) is the last killer assuming there's but 3 evils. On the other hand, if Kaschan turns up innocent I think D'riss the likelier candidate.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:13 AM

@mods - hmmm i haven't voted either, kaschan is voting for me.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:21 AM

View PostHood's Path, on Dec 9 2008, 11:44 AM, said:

Rashan has been doing more or less the same, yet somewhat better. He's also been diverting attention from Gamelon and now Kaschan. He lied about being a RI, and when all is said and done there's only one character I think with but one name, and that's not a good guy. Not to mention that Rashan was at the heart of the shit throwing fest during the week end, which removed the chance of any intelligent discussion happening during that time.

Now, D'riss is different. Here there's more gut involved than anything. First and foremost I reacted to his strange obsession with my early joke post, and how he even voted based on that and that alone. Now he's the first to vote Kaschan, which could clear him but it could also be a scum gamble. Kaschan seems the best candidate for a lynch and so an early vote could label him a PI. It would be something like how Mexal did his killer role back in the day.

In the end though, D'riss is the player I'm least certain of at this point when it comes to being a killer. It all depends on the CF result of Kaschan I think. If Kaschan turns up guilty I think Rashan (see, the names even match) is the last killer assuming there's but 3 evils. On the other hand, if Kaschan turns up innocent I think D'riss the likelier candidate.


I voted you because you kept ignoring me. And in the context of this game, saying "I'm a killer", even when drunk, does not qualify as a joke, sorry.

As for Kaschan being the best candidate lynch, that crap, we're the only ones who are giving him some heat (thanks for the Mexal comparison, by the way), even Fener went out of his way earlier today to say he he considered him inno, which raised my hair. There's a difference between not attacking someone and going out of your way to say he's innocent.

Rashan, in my mind, is possibly the KeyMaster. Look how he freaked out when Mockra revealed that there was something strange about Gamelon. Maybe those two knew of each other.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:24 AM

That's the difference between the two in my eyes:

Rashan freaked out as soon as Mockra said there was something about Gamelon
Kaschan did his thing after Gamelon revealed he was Dana.

That's why I prefer a Kaschan lynch today.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:30 AM

Ah you think kaschan is looking for those too to convert!!

I can guard him tonight if we don't get a lynch on him. He came straight out and voted for me this morning, my thinking being a good way to run through a day without having to make cases.

vote kaschan

bit of omgus and some logic by hp and driss i like. Not one of the possible RI's and also running under the radar of a few players so good chance.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:41 AM

View PostD'riss, on Dec 9 2008, 12:21 PM, said:

View PostHood's Path, on Dec 9 2008, 11:44 AM, said:

Rashan has been doing more or less the same, yet somewhat better. He's also been diverting attention from Gamelon and now Kaschan. He lied about being a RI, and when all is said and done there's only one character I think with but one name, and that's not a good guy. Not to mention that Rashan was at the heart of the shit throwing fest during the week end, which removed the chance of any intelligent discussion happening during that time.

Now, D'riss is different. Here there's more gut involved than anything. First and foremost I reacted to his strange obsession with my early joke post, and how he even voted based on that and that alone. Now he's the first to vote Kaschan, which could clear him but it could also be a scum gamble. Kaschan seems the best candidate for a lynch and so an early vote could label him a PI. It would be something like how Mexal did his killer role back in the day.

In the end though, D'riss is the player I'm least certain of at this point when it comes to being a killer. It all depends on the CF result of Kaschan I think. If Kaschan turns up guilty I think Rashan (see, the names even match) is the last killer assuming there's but 3 evils. On the other hand, if Kaschan turns up innocent I think D'riss the likelier candidate.


I voted you because you kept ignoring me. And in the context of this game, saying "I'm a killer", even when drunk, does not qualify as a joke, sorry.

As for Kaschan being the best candidate lynch, that crap, we're the only ones who are giving him some heat (thanks for the Mexal comparison, by the way), even Fener went out of his way earlier today to say he he considered him inno, which raised my hair. There's a difference between not attacking someone and going out of your way to say he's innocent.

Rashan, in my mind, is possibly the KeyMaster. Look how he freaked out when Mockra revealed that there was something strange about Gamelon. Maybe those two knew of each other.


All right, let's not go back into the whole work vs ignoring sort of thing. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one. And you welcome. I'm not trying to tag you as Mexal and scream we're all being manipulated by you btb. I'm merely saying that such a plan was done in that game to great effect.

And I disagree with you in regards to pressure. Several people noted Kaschan at the end of the day, and with the CF of Gamelon he was bound to receive a lot of heat. Mockra might've been a safer bet true, but there's a lot of people who buy his claim, me included, so it would've been hard me thinks.

As for Fener, yeah he did act awfully certain. Perhaps he's a symp or something similar? It's not entirely impossible if the GB team were powerfull role wise. I dunno. It's problematic to say the least that they all died early.

So, yeah, apart from you being inno/guilty, we seem to agree, which worries me.. though actually, Mockra agreeing with me worries me even more :The Force:

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:54 AM

Why would i not? I don't know anyones true alignment, not even my own :The Force: If a case looks goods i will go for it. If we lynch 2 evils and the game is still going I am obviously evil after gamelon and so you can lynch me and win. If we make it to having possibly six players and i am not a certain good or bad i recommend lynching me then as it will stop the game ending prematurely.

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