[Hood's Path]

Mockra, on Nov 20 2008, 03:15 PM, said:

Ok, reveal:

I am the edenist finder.
This isnt as useful as you may think, because I only get a laton or not laton result.
I can also send one pm a day, and one pm a night, to Ione, though I aint in a while, and my pms have been wiped. The only one I remember was of a sofa, and the rest have all been my investigations. If you go back a bit, theres 2 or 3 posts of sofa, where I was trying to reveal my identity to Ione.
I believe im the red light, but im not so sure, scene wise. I forgot to submit night one, iirc, but my pms were wiped when I was possessed, and I cant remember if I was told I hadnt submitted, and did, or if I was told, and didnt get on in time for night. I have a distinct memory of a pm telling me, rather grumpily, that night timed out because of me.
My results, some of them known already:

Serc is not laton.
Shadow is not laton.
Galain is not laton.
Emurlahn is not laton.

Edit: g2g.

If thats true.... which I am not sure I believe... that means the only possible lead cult is Gaylan Lord.

[Hood's Path]

Liosan, on Nov 20 2008, 03:33 PM, said:

yeah.. sleep i such a beautiful think eh? Anyways, Mockra's reveal sounds not too bad, but i reserve judgment here. If he is speaking the truth, my little theory that Fener was Laton and blew up because of possession makes a little more sense.

And If Mockra is telling the truth, and your theory is correct, we only have 1 possesed and possibly 1 cult left.

[Hood's Path]

SO i think if the group decides to believe Mockra, that we need to lynch GL or Ruse/Emur. Ruse/ Emur being the possesed. Neither has posted so either could be last nights possesed. Whoever we lynch, during night we all use internet quotes to guard against possesion, then begin taking out the possesed. Or.. If Fener was the leader and Omtose #2... lol there might not be any cult left. GL being the only real possibility. (it would explain his willingness to vote as we do) I don't know...if the possesed took out Ruse its just a lynch, then a possesion, lynch, possesion, lynch, Possesion, until its down to Shadow, Liosan, and Galain and a possesed. I am rambling I need to go home. Try to get back in 5-6 hours.

[Liosan]

Hood's Path, on Nov 21 2008, 01:40 AM, said:

Liosan, on Nov 20 2008, 03:33 PM, said:

yeah.. sleep i such a beautiful think eh? Anyways, Mockra's reveal sounds not too bad, but i reserve judgment here. If he is speaking the truth, my little theory that Fener was Laton and blew up because of possession makes a little more sense.

And If Mockra is telling the truth, and your theory is correct, we only have 1 possesed and possibly 1 cult left.

yeah. Laton's ladyfriend and the last possessed. Though, for all we know some of you might've been recruited.. Still, I like those odds.

Also, Galain, if you believe Mockra's claim then your worries about Shadow and I should be put to rest, right? Ruse investigated me night 1 and found me innocent remember, and Shadow is by Mockra's claim, not Laton.

So, here's what I suggest we do. This might come back to bite me, but I do think we have to take some chances and so I take te first step.. Night one I was given the guard power by that sweet old woman handing out powers all over the place (at least I think it was night one.. this has been a long game and I've been on and off quite a bit). Shadow can confirm as I told him a few nights later (we're not into communication. Our relationship works as long as we do lots of humping to avoid talking to each other).

So, basically we lynch Emurlahn and I guard Ruse.

That reminds me, Ruse, I guarded you one night. Which night was that .. I dunno if that kind of stuff is posted in SH or not. It's worth a shot

[Galayn Lord]

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 03:39 PM, said:

If thats true.... which I am not sure I believe... that means the only possible lead cult is Gaylan Lord.

*Hammers head against desk*


What am I? The only un-Roled Inno left. As I've said before. I have never had a Role or any NA, and I never will (who knows if the Teacher is still alive). I've never been Possessed or Recruited.

That's my reveal. The mods even gave me an in-game name of absolutely no use, because this person is just an innocent, useless bystander, but I suppose I'll stick to the rules and not give you my book name.

I'm saying this now in case I don't survive the Day, though I think some of you CIs are at least leaning towards a (much more useful) Emur lynch. Of course, if the numbers are as Town-friendly as HP just speculated, the Town might be able to afford to dispose of me today through a lynch, while still having the numbers to pull of an Emur lynch tomorrow.

[Galayn Lord]

Well, I'm headed to more drink and then bed.

Hopefully some of you will get a tad more decisive, assuming you're awake (by my watch, it should be early morning for Yooripeans, which apparently constitute most of you). Let's see if we can actually lynch someone, before one of us explodes. I just hope the "voting bloc" notion holds - and continues yesterday's notion of going after Emur, so that my vote counts.

Edit: If there's a successful lynch of Emur while I'm away, and Night falls and then Day comes again while I'm away, here's a half-sentence to prove my non-Possession:

The ___ of warfare was ____ forever on __ September ______, when the ___ first employed ____ at the battle of __________. From those _____, ______machines have evolved today's high-tech ________, which represent the most powerfully ______ weapons systems on the _______.

Edit^2: I'm headed to bed, not bad. Which may be the same thing when I wake up.

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 21 November 2008 - 06:00 AM

[Hood's Path]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 20 2008, 04:29 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 03:39 PM, said:

If thats true.... which I am not sure I believe... that means the only possible lead cult is Gaylan Lord.

*Hammers head against desk*


What am I? The only un-Roled Inno left. As I've said before. I have never had a Role or any NA, and I never will (who knows if the Teacher is still alive). I've never been Possessed or Recruited.

That's my reveal. The mods even gave me an in-game name of absolutely no use, because this person is just an innocent, useless bystander, but I suppose I'll stick to the rules and not give you my book name.

I'm saying this now in case I don't survive the Day, though I think some of you CIs are at least leaning towards a (much more useful) Emur lynch. Of course, if the numbers are as Town-friendly as HP just speculated, the Town might be able to afford to dispose of me today through a lynch, while still having the numbers to pull of an Emur lynch tomorrow.


Ok, I. Guess I. Didn't take into account the lead being dead. I like liosans plan. I believe my voteis already on emur. So there it will stay. Sorry on phone. Typing is a bitch

[Galain]

Liosan, on Nov 20 2008, 11:03 PM, said:

Anyways, what I'm saying is that anyone of us could be possessed. Well, except for Shadow, and I. Possession attempts on lovers kill the target. Recruitment attempts fail.

WTF?

That is a lie, you can be sure we asked PS the same question before. The answer was "the player not recruited would be told that the link is down but no reason given".

Shadow, Liosan, you are not lovers. Lovers would have coded each other's names like Thyr and I did. What was your plan if one of you died? Honestly? Sacrifice the chance to CI yourself like I just did later in the game?

I'm still catching up, but did Liosan ever do the complete-sentences thing? For now, the only thing we know is that Shadow can send messages to Liosan, that's it. Not that they are lovers, or that they communicate off-thread.

This is incredible.

[Galain]

Mockra, on Nov 21 2008, 01:15 AM, said:

Ok, reveal:

I am the edenist finder.
This isnt as useful as you may think, because I only get a laton or not laton result.
I can also send one pm a day, and one pm a night, to Ione, though I aint in a while, and my pms have been wiped. The only one I remember was of a sofa, and the rest have all been my investigations. If you go back a bit, theres 2 or 3 posts of sofa, where I was trying to reveal my identity to Ione.
I believe im the red light, but im not so sure, scene wise. I forgot to submit night one, iirc, but my pms were wiped when I was possessed, and I cant remember if I was told I hadnt submitted, and did, or if I was told, and didnt get on in time for night. I have a distinct memory of a pm telling me, rather grumpily, that night timed out because of me.
My results, some of them known already:

Serc is not laton.
Shadow is not laton.
Galain is not laton.
Emurlahn is not laton.

Edit: g2g.

Holy shit what is happening here?

He is not the original Mockra. I confirm the "sofa" PM, and that's all I can say within the rules.

But the investigations I know of were: Serc, Shadow, and Hood's Path. Since then, nothing. I guess when someone gets recruited, they lose their role capacities, this has been said many times.

So, Galain is not laton, this I know.

Emurlahn is not Laton, is he?

I'll vote Emurlahn in a sec if it's not the hammer vote.


Where is Ruse? Is he in the tau machine? Can't be, since Korvalain is dead. Did he post?

Man, what a mind-blowing morning

[Galain]

OK, I finished the thread and regrouped. Sorry about that.

I did forget about this "Shadow is not laton". And if this PM went through, it's because the sender was neither possessed nor recruited, since they lose their power when it happens.

My turn to apologize to Shadow, if he's lying about being lover with Liosan it's because he has no choice.

I'll ask again to the mods about what would have happened if me or Thyr got recruited/possessed, let's see if there are as many rules as they are mods. If the answer I get is different, we either have different lovers mechanics or they are lying, but that makes Liosan the leader of the two.

Liosan survived the tau machine, but I still don't understand why it would kill cults. It's too convenient. And even if it would a recruit, maybe it wouldn't kill Laton. Also, that's assuming Korvalain was telling the truth, which is a good assumption since he died inno. Could he have been de-culted or de-possessed right before his death? Where IS Ruse today? In the machine? Then either Korvalain lied or the machine was given to someone else?

I do not confirm that Mockra was originally the one he claims, he might have picked up the role reading spoiler heaven and could be possessed. But then I don't know why he would be lying at all, he could read the actual targets from SH and wouldn't have made this mistake. Or, he's the original player with the role, but protecting Emurlahn? (Hoping the one who could contradict him would be dead by now?)

I still want to wait and see if Ruse is coming today. There's loads of time left in day.

[Path-Shaper]

it's still day 7
you have about 24 hours left

9 of you are alive
2 votes for Emurlahn (HP, GL)

7 people have not voted (everyone else)

takes 5 votes to see the stars

I'm going to bed, more mods should be arriving soon. good night

[Galain]

... and now I got a mod message telling that if Thyr or I had been recruited or possessed, we would have died. I don't care if it's true or not, but it does confirm that those two might be telling the truth. Plus, I just remembered Liosan was cleared inno by Ruse.

Well, fuck, sorry all, this morning entertainment was brought to you by GALAIN ™.

Remember kids: It ain't the same if it ain't got the 'lain.

[Galayn Lord]

Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 11:35 PM, said:

... and now I got a mod message telling that if Thyr or I had been recruited or possessed, we would have died. I don't care if it's true or not, but it does confirm that those two might be telling the truth. Plus, I just remembered Liosan was cleared inno by Ruse.

Well, then - your vote doesn't seem to have been counted if you made it for Emurlahn.

Put it down, let Liosan and Shadow follow up since they should be who they say they are, and we can get some serious fucking Truth revealed. And if we've managed to nail the last cultist, then we're golden. I suggest Possession insurance for everyone, by the way - post something you can finish like I did, becuase if Emur's cult, I think he's the last recruiter, and we'll only have the Possessed to worry about, and they'll be a lot easier to spot than Cult recruits.

Anyways, I've had too much to drink and it's getting late, so I'm really, really off this time. Be back in seven or eight hours, depending. Get us a lynch, Town-folk. Let's hope no one explodes meanwhile ...

[Galain]

Well, it seems that for Shadow, Liosan and I, you have more than possession assurance: you have innocence guaranteed as long as we're alive. Sounds insane, but anyways.

I'm still waiting for Ruse to say something today, and for Mockra to come back. I want some answers, and your calls for speed-lynch since the first hour of this day does not look good in my eyes. I dare hope there is no "explosion" timer that happens before the end-of-day timer, that's just stupid. Those explosions were triggered by something, and I doubt speed-lynching would help anything.

[Galain]

Wait, what if Shadow is not Laton, but Laton's girlfriend?

...




Now it comes back to Korvy's statement that cults die in his machine, and until I don't see a Ruse post I have to assume something is wrong about Korvy and "his" machine.

[Galain]

Thought: what if the "time" element of the explosion corresponds to the SH players reaching a majority in their own vote?

I remember being said that they elect who gets sent down, so maybe possession happens not at night, but as soon as they have a majority. Then I don't know, maybe it's the last player having posted at that moment that gets possessed.

And then Gamelon and Korvalain had this reaction to being possessed, similar to what me and the other lovers would get. Korvalain was immune I guess because he had the tau machine, Gamelon it might have been his role, exploding if possessed and taking down 2 other players with him.

Hmmmm.

Fuck it, decision decision

vote Emurlahn.

[Shadow]

Galain, on Nov 21 2008, 02:35 AM, said:

... and now I got a mod message telling that if Thyr or I had been recruited or possessed, we would have died. I don't care if it's true or not, but it does confirm that those two might be telling the truth. Plus, I just remembered Liosan was cleared inno by Ruse.

Well, fuck, sorry all, this morning entertainment was brought to you by GALAIN ™.

Remember kids: It ain't the same if it ain't got the 'lain.

Wait, is that died as in: 'one possessed or recruited, then BOTH die?"
If so, it seems we're diametrically opposed. I much prefer my relationship
Also... does this 'ability' (or crutch) last as long as you live, or only as long as your partnership lasted? If the last, your claim as Certified Town ™ isn't all that.

Now, Mockra's claim: it's highly convenient that the ones he did research according to his reveal were:

Serc is not laton. Serc died an Inno.
Shadow is not laton. Damn right I'm not, but I revealed, am cleared by Liosan, backed up by Liosan's time in zero tau and now backed up by the rule Liosan published.
Galain is not laton. He spent time in zero tau, so he's been cleared in another way, too.
Emurlahn is not laton. convenient that today's lynch target is the only one not previously cleared.

In other words: I believe nothing at all of this reveal as it's too conveniently a defense for our suspected cult leader. It's like, let's take a couple of confirmed town, throw in Serc, who we doubted, and let the CF and previous established alignments work for the cult.
GL: You made me agree with Galain. The horror
Galain: was Thyrllan Joshua?

Also, as a sidenote: I'm starting to understand why the cult hasn't won yet. They might have spent time recruiting Liosan or me before our respective reveals... Add a possessed cultist or so and they're not the monster they could have been right now if every recruiting attempt succeeded.

[Shadow]

Galain, on Nov 21 2008, 03:44 AM, said:

Thought: what if the "time" element of the explosion corresponds to the SH players reaching a majority in their own vote?

I remember being said that they elect who gets sent down, so maybe possession happens not at night, but as soon as they have a majority. Then I don't know, maybe it's the last player having posted at that moment that gets possessed.

And then Gamelon and Korvalain had this reaction to being possessed, similar to what me and the other lovers would get. Korvalain was immune I guess because he had the tau machine, Gamelon it might have been his role, exploding if possessed and taking down 2 other players with him.

Hmmmm.

Fuck it, decision decision

vote Emurlahn.

SH people play for the faction they belonged to while dead when they're in SH. I think the vote is on who gets possessed and that town (who should have a majority in there) are voting possessed into people they think are cult. It is the only explanation I can imagine that does explain why, with so many possessed as we've found already, the cult hasn't established a majority over town... especially if more town were possessed than cult were.

Lastly, as to the brain fry the cultists experience in the tau machine: I think we should trust Korv's CF and thus his reveal. There may be stuff he didn't know about it, though. Wouldn't be a first.

[Shadow]

Also, from my two posts it may seem that I'm diminishing cult. I'm not. I'm rather baffled that with 2 starting cult, 1 dead cultist only and 6 nights gone, the cult does not have a majority, nor have we hit more cult (as often as we should have) through lynches/ explosions, and I struggle to find an explanation for it. It's been bugging me immensely for a few days.

I've always seen cult as the major threat to us since the Ivets were wiped out, and thought the possessed an annoyance to deal with later. Now, I'm not sure whether it is the cult or the possessed that is the biggest threat. We should lynch Emurlahn though.. getting rid of the suspected cultist head honcho is definately something we shouldn't postpone.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 21 November 2008 - 09:07 AM

[Shadow]

And to claim 4 in a row:

I'll be withholding my vote for Emurlahn for now, up until there's a consensus that Ruse will not show.