[Salt-Man Z]

Abyss, where'd you get March from? Most definitive I heard was "on the publisher's schedule for sometime in 2011". Regardless, I'm psyched.

I'm 1/4 of the way through BoT for the third time right now, and it's just amazing. Really looking forward to reading CBK for the second time.

[Abyss]

polishgenius, on 09 November 2010 - 09:47 PM, said:

I still can't get Blade of Tyshalle.

It kills me how hard it is for people to get that book.
I get that it didn't sell huge digits but the publisher bothered itself to put out CBK, you'de think they'd make the first two books available.

Pig Iron, on 09 November 2010 - 10:30 PM, said:

Abyss, on 09 November 2010 - 09:27 PM, said:

Much excitement and must necro this thread to note that i had a look at Stover's blog to discover, to my great joy, that's he's passed the completed ACTS OF CAINE: HIS FATHER'S FIST on to his publishers who have tentatively sched'd it for Mar 2011. And as soon as it's available i will be pre-ordering that motherfucker like a motherfucking motherfucker. Fuck.

- Abyss, fucking psychfucked.

Had no idea. F* christmas right there.

BoT is on Kindle BTW.

there ya go polishg'.

Salt-Man Z, on 09 November 2010 - 10:43 PM, said:

Abyss, where'd you get March from? Most definitive I heard was "on the publisher's schedule for sometime in 2011". Regardless, I'm psyched.

I'm 1/4 of the way through BoT for the third time right now, and it's just amazing. Really looking forward to reading CBK for the second time.

Stover's blog says 'tentatively' March 2011. Obviously it can go any which way. Fuck. But he has handed in the finished fucking manufuckingscript. And the hints he throws in are pretty interesting.

[Salt-Man Z]

Abyss, on 10 November 2010 - 04:29 PM, said:

I get that it didn't sell huge digits but the publisher bothered itself to put out CBK, you'de think they'd make the first two books available.

The worst part is, I believe they did reprint Heroes Die. Just not BoT for some bizarre reason.

[Abyss]

Salt-Man Z, on 10 November 2010 - 08:29 PM, said:

The worst part is, I believe they did reprint Heroes Die. Just not BoT for some bizarre reason.

yeah i completely did not understand that. Maybe they ran out of money or something. CBK would be really hard to follow without BoT.

[Fist Gamet]

BoT currently £17 on fucking amazon...

[Salt-Man Z]

It's worth it.

[Abyss]

Fist Gamet, on 12 November 2010 - 12:08 AM, said:

BoT currently £17 on fucking amazon...

Salt-Man Z, on 12 November 2010 - 02:50 AM, said:

It's worth it.

Seconded.
But if it helps I see amazon.ca has it 2nd hand from about $20cdn which converted is about half the UK price. .com has it for about the same $US.

[Abyss]

Modgod note of moved these posts to separate thread to avoid monopolizing the 'What i'm reading' thread...
June 15 2011 remerging w the original Caine thread...

Salt-Man Z, on 22 November 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:

Caine Black Knife, fuckbitches.

[stovermode] About fucking time. Fuck. And if you're fucking lucky the sequel will fuck you like a chicken pot pie in fucking March 20fucking11.

- Fucking Abyss, ...[/stovermode]

This post has been edited by Abyss: 15 June 2011 - 06:45 PM

[Obdigore]

So I read the first Caine book. It was good, but not great. And now he is some crippled old man and he is supposed to go back again, or something?

WTF?

I'm not sure if I will pick up the second book as the blurb makes it sound like geriatric wars vol 4.

[Abyss]

Obdigore, on 22 November 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

So I read the first Caine book. It was good, but not great. And now he is some crippled old man and he is supposed to go back again, or something?

WTF?

I'm not sure if I will pick up the second book as the blurb makes it sound like geriatric wars vol 4.

The shift in the places the characters are in at the start of the book is jarring, but then it goes nuts. In fact, it goes balls-to-the-walls dragonfucknuts. Seriously, I cannot sing the praises of this book highly enough. Maybe not worth the obscene prices being charged for the few copies available, but if you even slightly liked the first one, and you spot BLADE OF TYSHALLE at a reasonable price, FUCKING GRAB IT. Stab people if you have to, but FUCKING GRAB IT. Fuck.

- Abyss, ...does not in fact approve of stabbing people for books... usually...

[MTS]

Yes, do NOT pass up on Blade of Tyshalle, it is completely fantastic.

[amphibian]

Obdigore, on 22 November 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

So I read the first Caine book. It was good, but not great. And now he is some crippled old man and he is supposed to go back again, or something?

WTF?

I'm not sure if I will pick up the second book as the blurb makes it sound like geriatric wars vol 4.

You love the Dresden books. You'll love the second book, if you give it a shot. Trust us.

The beginning of Blade of Tyshalle is kind of a grim mood-setting flashback/"winter of discontent" thing, but as Abyss so eloquently puts it, it gets absolutely-balls-to-the-wall dragonfucknuts awesome after that. The beginning is necessary to understand why he's doing what he's doing. The first one really was For The Love of Pallas Ril, but as usual in the Caine books, what he thought he wanted is not exactly what he got. This one has Caine in pursuit of different loves - and things get completely insane once he gets going on that pursuit.

Black Knife is even better than Blade of Tyshalle and Heroes Die put together. I can't wait until His Father's Fist comes out. I have no idea what the hell he's going to do next and I trust Stover to make it even more dragonfuckballs crazy awesome than what came before.

[Abyss]

Amphi puts it nicely - you trusted us with the Drescrack and you were not disappointed.

Now trust us with the CoCaine.

[Salt-Man Z]

Obdigore, on 22 November 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

And now he is some crippled old man and he is supposed to go back again, or something?

Oh, no. He's not supposed to go back.

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I'm not sure if I will pick up the second book as the blurb makes it sound like geriatric wars vol 4.

No, it's more like the dark angel and the crooked knight and the part-time goddess versus the man who was a god versus the dragonness versus the god of dust and ashes. Heroes Die was very much sword-and-sorcery, but Blade of Tyshalle ramps everything up to true epic proportions. To get you thinking along the right lines, you only have to ponder these two things: (1) Imagine the absolute worst that could happen to Hari Michaelson, and (2) Imagine the worst thing that could happen between Earth and Overworld. Be warned that pages 250-500 of this book are about the most depressing stuff I've read ever, but it's gold after that.

And I disagree with amph about CBK; I'm reading it for the second time, and while it's still awesome, I don't think it's quite up to the levels of HD/BoT.

[QuickTidal]

I like the phrase "dragonfucknuts" Which to me is the fantasy version of "bugfucknuts"

Either way. Badass.

[Abyss]

Salt-Man Z, on 22 November 2010 - 07:14 PM, said:

Obdigore, on 22 November 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

And now he is some crippled old man and he is supposed to go back again, or something?

Oh, no. He's not supposed to go back.

I saw what you did there.

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...Be warned that pages 250-500 of this book are about the most depressing stuff I've read ever, but it's gold after that.

No joke that. I would argue it's gold right thru, but that is some dark, dark fiction gold. Punctuated by some crazy ass battle scenes.

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And I disagree with amph about CBK; I'm reading it for the second time, and while it's still awesome, I don't think it's quite up to the levels of HD/BoT.

Tough call. CBK is (marginally) less dark and a bit more high (stabby splody holy fuck we're all gonna die) adventure than TYSHALLE, but the overall story of BoT from begining to end is pretty staggering.

As a series to date, the whole work is pretty amazing.

QuickTidal, on 22 November 2010 - 07:58 PM, said:

I like the phrase "dragonfucknuts" Which to me is the fantasy version of "bugfucknuts"

Either way. Badass.

- Abyss, proud originator of the term 'dragonfucknuts'.

[Tapper]

I'll add my recommendation, having read only the first one. It is quite a nice book and I was somewhat surprised by one part of the ending. Now to find me a copy of the other 2....

[Slow Ben]

Added to the list.

I think my "too read" list is now officially past the point of ever finishing in my lifetime.

[HoosierDaddy]

Got bogged down in Blade because of other stuff. I was about half way into it, and just broke it off. Will finish it at some point. A particularly jarring section knocked me out long enough to lose my momentum, but like MacArthur, I shall return.

[amphibian]

Abyss, on 22 November 2010 - 09:21 PM, said:

Tough call. CBK is (marginally) less dark and a bit more high (stabby splody holy fuck we're all gonna die) adventure than TYSHALLE, but the overall story of BoT from begining to end is pretty staggering.

I view Black Knife as half a book - much like Dust of Dreams.

I think Blade of Tyshalle relied so heavily upon characters that we'd already been introduced to that I viewed it more as the continuation and conclusion of a storyline, while viewing Black Knife as more of a fresh start exploring new territory. It was certified dragonfucknuts for sure though.

Stover gives us

Spoiler

a much greater depth to ogrillo society, the craziness going on in the Boedoken (the Caine legend-establishing adventure and the current one) and the sun god paladins are flat out awesome. Especially how Caine interacts with the paladins. Oh, I loved that one.

Surprised the hell out of me and made me love Stover's inventiveness even more.

This post has been edited by Abyss: 11 January 2011 - 07:58 PM
Reason for edit: to conceal fucking CBK spoilers