[worry]

I went and looked. It was worth it.

[EmperorMagus]

worry, on 28 September 2015 - 03:21 AM, said:

I went and looked. It was worth it.

That's because you're a romantic.

[melonhead]

I have approximately 7 hours to do a 2000 word essay

[Puck]

I had a bad case of insomnia and a clear sky, so nothing better to do than watch it. However, I wish I could've caught some sleep instead, considering how I am feeling now. Yeah, sorry.

[Andorion]

Complete data loss on my brothers laptop. 5 weeks worth of work on his term paper just vanished.

Does anyone know if you can recover data on a HP Pavilion g6 laptop after a factory image system restore?

This post has been edited by Andorion: 28 September 2015 - 07:14 AM

[EmperorMagus]

Andorion, on 28 September 2015 - 07:14 AM, said:

Complete data loss on my brothers laptop. 5 weeks worth of work on his term paper just vanished.

Does anyone know if you can recover data on a HP Pavilion g6 laptop after a factory image system restore?

I know it is certainly doable as I once did recover some data from a laptop I had to hastily format. I got a program from a friend and it took more than a day to work but I did get most of my stuff back.

This is the short version of stuff you can do to get the data back.

[Silencer]

EmperorMagus, on 28 September 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 28 September 2015 - 07:14 AM, said:

Complete data loss on my brothers laptop. 5 weeks worth of work on his term paper just vanished.

Does anyone know if you can recover data on a HP Pavilion g6 laptop after a factory image system restore?

I know it is certainly doable as I once did recover some data from a laptop I had to hastily format. I got a program from a friend and it took more than a day to work but I did get most of my stuff back.

This is the short version of stuff you can do to get the data back.

Yeah, unless the reset actually overwrites the existing data as for a 'data shredder' type program, you should be able to get some or even most of it back.
I'd hazard that most factory resets don't go that far in removing data, so you could be in luck.

[Gredfallan Ale]

Silencer, on 28 September 2015 - 08:43 AM, said:

EmperorMagus, on 28 September 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 28 September 2015 - 07:14 AM, said:

Complete data loss on my brothers laptop. 5 weeks worth of work on his term paper just vanished.

Does anyone know if you can recover data on a HP Pavilion g6 laptop after a factory image system restore?

I know it is certainly doable as I once did recover some data from a laptop I had to hastily format. I got a program from a friend and it took more than a day to work but I did get most of my stuff back.

This is the short version of stuff you can do to get the data back.

Yeah, unless the reset actually overwrites the existing data as for a 'data shredder' type program, you should be able to get some or even most of it back.
I'd hazard that most factory resets don't go that far in removing data, so you could be in luck.

My experience is that most of the data is recoverable after a "system restore". A friend of mine had some issues with his Windows installation, which prompted him to follow a set of instructions found on the internet that involved restoring the system to the factory image. Needless to say, the issues were gone, but so were his data. We were able to recover most of his important documents, but as he continued using the laptop after the restore, some data was already overwritten or damaged.

So, a warning: If you have the intention to use a recovery tool, then stop using the laptop!.

The reason is simple: In most cases, as Silencer pointed out, the procedure of "resetting" a disk usually does not involve the actual removal of information on the disk. It would be quite time consuming to overwrite every sector, so in most cases the sectors are just labelled as "free", enabling the system to use it to store new data. So, while the information of file allocation is lost, carefully scanning each sector might enable you to recover the files. However, as those sectors are now labelled as "free space", continuing to use the system might cause them to be overwritten by new data.

The first step would be to stop using the system. The safest next step would be to try to recover the data without using the operating system installed on that disk to minimize the chance of additional sectors being overwritten during use. One option for that would be to use a "live (usb) disk" with a Linux operating system and use the available data recovery tools for that OS. In that case, the operating system actually runs from the usb stick, not the hard disk, to avoid "disturbing" the disk. One option might be to use the Ubuntu LiveUSB installation and using one of the options listed on Data Recovery - Community Help Wiki.

Good luck!

[Andorion]

Thanks a lot guys! Going to devote a few hours tomorrow to see what I can salvage. The bulk of the data was backed up, so thats a relief, but I am essentailly looking for a bunch of Doc files - you know typed reports and stuff

[Tiste Simeon]

Andorion, on 28 September 2015 - 05:01 PM, said:

Thanks a lot guys! Going to devote a few hours tomorrow to see what I can salvage. The bulk of the data was backed up, so thats a relief, but I am essentailly looking for a bunch of Doc files - you know typed reports and stuff

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[Tapper]

Urgh. The director of our NGO was pensioned four weeks ago.
Sadly, he had kept his foot firmly on the brake of any development of the organisation whatsoever for the last decade or so. As a result, we have a multitude of issues plaguing us that we repeatedly wanted to solve or research and weren't allowed to. We don't even have a mission statement.

Last week, the head of my department and I had to tell his replacement how bad the situation was. She has given us three weeks to write a coherent policy for the next five years. My boss passed the assignment to me, then excused himself to run commercial assignments for the next month and a half with only sporadic visits to the office. That's in and by itself not a surprise: he does the day-to-day affairs, which he excels at, I do the big cont®acts and long term view.

We have a wishlist of changes, and many of our people have a lot of suggestions of their own - often quite conflicting ones. None of them were allowed to be properly researched, calculated and discussed by the previous director and as such, most exist purely in a conceptual state because committing them to paper for review would have seen them officially rejected.

Now I have to weld them all together, make a coherent and comprehensive view on all these issues and submit them for review, probably through my boss, who is likely to be less prepared to present them than I am. Considering few of these options have been researched, I have to tie them all together, connect them to the environment outside of the organisation that makes change mandatory, and suggest further research.

If even half of this gets accepted, that's going to be a lot of project work in an organisation that is struggling to break even, comes out of a strict top down hierarchy and is really not used to independent thought.

[Gredfallan Ale]

Andorion, on 28 September 2015 - 05:01 PM, said:

Thanks a lot guys! Going to devote a few hours tomorrow to see what I can salvage. The bulk of the data was backed up, so thats a relief, but I am essentailly looking for a bunch of Doc files - you know typed reports and stuff

Some programs can search for specific file types, speeding up the process as it only has to match certain bit patterns. You might want to look into that.

Did you recover anything so far?

[Tiste Simeon]

A very good friend of mine has just been diagnosed with breast cancer. I don't think it is too serious at the moment but still, it's not nice. She lives in California so it's not like I can just pop over and see her too.

[Gnaw]

Tapper, on 29 September 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

Urgh. The director of our NGO was pensioned four weeks ago.
Sadly, he had kept his foot firmly on the brake of any development of the organisation whatsoever for the last decade or so. As a result, we have a multitude of issues plaguing us that we repeatedly wanted to solve or research and weren't allowed to. We don't even have a mission statement.

Last week, the head of my department and I had to tell his replacement how bad the situation was. She has given us three weeks to write a coherent policy for the next five years. My boss passed the assignment to me, then excused himself to run commercial assignments for the next month and a half with only sporadic visits to the office. That's in and by itself not a surprise: he does the day-to-day affairs, which he excels at, I do the big cont®acts and long term view.

We have a wishlist of changes, and many of our people have a lot of suggestions of their own - often quite conflicting ones. None of them were allowed to be properly researched, calculated and discussed by the previous director and as such, most exist purely in a conceptual state because committing them to paper for review would have seen them officially rejected.

Now I have to weld them all together, make a coherent and comprehensive view on all these issues and submit them for review, probably through my boss, who is likely to be less prepared to present them than I am. Considering few of these options have been researched, I have to tie them all together, connect them to the environment outside of the organisation that makes change mandatory, and suggest further research.

If even half of this gets accepted, that's going to be a lot of project work in an organisation that is struggling to break even, comes out of a strict top down hierarchy and is really not used to independent thought.

I'm fairly certain that all of that condenses to:

"Looking for a co-mod".

[Tapper]

Gnaw, on 29 September 2015 - 01:27 PM, said:

Tapper, on 29 September 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

Urgh. The director of our NGO was pensioned four weeks ago.
Sadly, he had kept his foot firmly on the brake of any development of the organisation whatsoever for the last decade or so. As a result, we have a multitude of issues plaguing us that we repeatedly wanted to solve or research and weren't allowed to. We don't even have a mission statement.

Last week, the head of my department and I had to tell his replacement how bad the situation was. She has given us three weeks to write a coherent policy for the next five years. My boss passed the assignment to me, then excused himself to run commercial assignments for the next month and a half with only sporadic visits to the office. That's in and by itself not a surprise: he does the day-to-day affairs, which he excels at, I do the big cont®acts and long term view.

We have a wishlist of changes, and many of our people have a lot of suggestions of their own - often quite conflicting ones. None of them were allowed to be properly researched, calculated and discussed by the previous director and as such, most exist purely in a conceptual state because committing them to paper for review would have seen them officially rejected.

Now I have to weld them all together, make a coherent and comprehensive view on all these issues and submit them for review, probably through my boss, who is likely to be less prepared to present them than I am. Considering few of these options have been researched, I have to tie them all together, connect them to the environment outside of the organisation that makes change mandatory, and suggest further research.

If even half of this gets accepted, that's going to be a lot of project work in an organisation that is struggling to break even, comes out of a strict top down hierarchy and is really not used to independent thought.

I'm fairly certain that all of that condenses to:

"Looking for a co-mod".

Heh. Yeah, I guess. At some point. When the amateur hour above is over...

[Lady Bliss]

Spent my day cleaning my garage in preparation of moving. Next step... clean out the refrigerator.

[Gorefest]

People that post on a dedicated book forum or subreddit with the request to convince them not to stop reading that book or series. For crying out loud, if you don't like it, stop reading it. Develop your own personality instead of leeching off of the hive mind notion of 'good' or 'bad' from 'The Internet'.

[worry]

Great point. I think I'm gonna adopt that outlook.

[Puck]

Gorefest, on 30 September 2015 - 09:39 AM, said:

People that post on a dedicated book forum or subreddit with the request to convince them not to stop reading that book or series. For crying out loud, if you don't like it, stop reading it. Develop your own personality instead of leeching off of the hive mind notion of 'good' or 'bad' from 'The Internet'.

I actually had a discussion about this with my best friend the other day, also because she linked me to a reddit thread about someone wanting to be convinced to keep reading malazan even though he seemed to dislike it. My general stance is: Don't like? Go find something else to read. Unsure? Give it another book. But stop banging your head against the wall and trying to like it just because the internet says it's good. Also, reading comprehension is a thing.

However, my friend insisted that this kind of behaviour has it's merits, as she once only came to like a work because she went online and looked at some opinions of fans of the work to get a different perspective. I think the discussion ended inconclusively (I was half asleep), but even taking that into account, I think there's a difference between trying to look at something from a fan's perspective to understand it better, and demanding people explain the work to you so you may start liking it because the internet says you should.


Anyway, more on topic: headaches. I had this mother of headaches on Sunday, blurry vision in one eye included, and it persisted, though to a lesser degree, during the last two days, and the headache itself is still here. Meh.

[Andorion]

Really long day, and to top it off my seasonal allergies kick in. The bus chooses to stand precisely under a pollinating tree. So now blurry eyes, aching nose, and a burning throat.