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#16881 User is offline   Gust Hubb 

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Posted 28 February 2015 - 05:03 PM

View Postmelonhead, on 26 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Thanks for the support everyone. Sis starting chemo soon.


My best wishes to your and your family.

Did they ever figure out what kind of tumor it was?
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Posted 28 February 2015 - 05:21 PM

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View PostBriar King, on 27 February 2015 - 05:38 PM, said:

I've seen a total of about 4 Dr over it. Never even crossed my mind to seek support groups on this. The Drs said about the females back then in 2000-2001 thInk it is Fibromyalgia, but not me cause it was women's syndrome back then. I've since heard Neurpathay is what I have by the latest dr but all my test come back negative so it's puzzling for sure. My guard is always up during these cause I know they won't find anything and their probably think this is BS he just here for good meds, he's to young to have pain like this.... I've wished for TK so many times since I was 19 so that I could just grab a Drs arm and let them feel what I feel while looking in their doubting eyes. I'm just scared shitless what to do.


Could the pain be described as a very intense version of the tingling one gets when a foot is asleep and waking up?

I have an aunt with fibromyalgia. I'm male, but have peripheral neuropathy caused by 2nd and 3rd degree burns over 45%. I was in a burn unit for 105 days. The entire time I was on a morphine drip and it didn't touch the pain in my feet and hands. When they moved me to the inpatient physical rehab unit the doctor there said, "Oh, that's neurogenic pain and morphine doesn't help with that. We'll take care of it."

Neurogenic pain is best handled with anti-convulsives rather than pain meds. Gabapentin (Neurontin) worked well for a long time, but gave me seriously weird dreams. Now I'm using Neupro patches. They work better without as many side effects as the neurontin. The one biggie for me with the Neupro patches is some serious mood changes for the 3 or so weeks it took to build up in my system.


Yeah, sadly the medical community has trouble with fibromyalgia as others on thread have indicated. There is an inbuilt cynicism to the system, especially after doctors and other medical staff get jaded from "bad" patients who play the system or are just plain ineffectual humans. STDs should be eradicated, but because people don't take their medicine correctly (if at all) and don't get their sexual partners to take medicine, the problem persists. You have other people with chronic conditions like diabetes who don't take their medicine properly (regularly and in correct doses) and end up burdening the system with the end-stage results of their poorly controlled disease. You also have the people who pretend to be in pain and sell their prescriptions on the black market to either just make money or to buy more of the less expensive narcotic (I hear that heroin is particularly cheap in NY from one of my forensic colleagues).

So, for a genuine patient like you with a disease they can't understand and symptoms they can't measure/verify, you get the backlash of medical cynicism, for which as a medical professional I apologize.

I do see changes in the educational system trying to reverse the culture, but that takes time, skill and dedication and may require a stronger voice from the patients on their own behalf.

I agree with the others though, keep trying a new doctor every so often. There are several stories of patients shunted from place to place only to have one open minded doctor figure out what is really going on or figure out what actually works. And when you are an established patient, you are stuck with what you are diagnosed with, even though in chronic conditions people need to have a rethink every so often to make sure nothing has been missed.

In the end, my general advice is to remember that doctors are just people, prone to the same mistakes and misconceptions you see everywhere in every job. It doesn't justify mistreating patients, but unfortunately, just like in any other consumer experience, you need to stand up for yourself and be smart to the system. Good luck.
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Posted 01 March 2015 - 02:51 AM

View Postamphibian, on 27 February 2015 - 04:11 AM, said:

View Postmelonhead, on 26 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Thanks for the support everyone. Sis starting chemo soon.

Build up a supply of board games, books to read together and other hang out activities. She's going to be sitting there and fighting her ass off with your help and presence.

Best of luck to her and the family/friends.


Thanks. Thats a good idea. ill start scouting around for things to do.
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Posted 01 March 2015 - 02:52 AM

View PostGust Hubb, on 28 February 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

View Postmelonhead, on 26 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Thanks for the support everyone. Sis starting chemo soon.


My best wishes to your and your family.

Did they ever figure out what kind of tumor it was?


Im not completely sure, but i think it was a Glioblastoma, whatever that is. All i know is that it is one of the worst ones to get as it is highly malignant and grows real fast.

Also, Briar King, im sorry to hear about your troubles man. That sounds like a horrible thing to go through. Sorry to say its way out of my depth, so i dont have any real advice, but just try to stay positive.

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 03:01 AM

Bk tried medical marijuana? Proven to increase the efficacy of pain meds, more relief for taking the same amount, or possibly lowering your typical intake. Worth looking into depending on where you live.
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Posted 01 March 2015 - 03:14 AM

View Postmelonhead, on 01 March 2015 - 02:52 AM, said:

View PostGust Hubb, on 28 February 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

View Postmelonhead, on 26 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Thanks for the support everyone. Sis starting chemo soon.


My best wishes to your and your family.

Did they ever figure out what kind of tumor it was?


Im not completely sure, but i think it was a Glioblastoma, whatever that is. All i know is that it is one of the worst ones to get as it is highly malignant and grows real fast.

Also, Briar King, im sorry to hear about your troubles man. That sounds like a horrible thing to go through. Sorry to say its way out of my depth, so i dont have any real advice, but just try to stay positive.


Glioblastoma multiforme. Hope it all works out and as others have said, the empire is here for you.
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Posted 01 March 2015 - 04:07 AM

View PostBriar King, on 01 March 2015 - 03:30 AM, said:

I would consider it to get off these damn things. I've wished for yrs I could have my health back and be med free and feel like the guy I was the 1st 19 yrs of my life. I think it's still going to be yrs and yrs before Louisiana approves it though.


I don't know. Legalization could happen quite quickly in legislative terms. It's not a culture war thing anymore for a significant portion of even the far right.
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Posted 01 March 2015 - 07:24 AM

View PostGust Hubb, on 01 March 2015 - 03:14 AM, said:

View Postmelonhead, on 01 March 2015 - 02:52 AM, said:

View PostGust Hubb, on 28 February 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

View Postmelonhead, on 26 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Thanks for the support everyone. Sis starting chemo soon.


My best wishes to your and your family.

Did they ever figure out what kind of tumor it was?


Im not completely sure, but i think it was a Glioblastoma, whatever that is. All i know is that it is one of the worst ones to get as it is highly malignant and grows real fast.

Also, Briar King, im sorry to hear about your troubles man. That sounds like a horrible thing to go through. Sorry to say its way out of my depth, so i dont have any real advice, but just try to stay positive.


Glioblastoma multiforme. Hope it all works out and as others have said, the empire is here for you.


Ah thats it. Thanks for the support :veryangry:
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Posted 01 March 2015 - 08:22 AM

I realize that they have to defend against the lawsuit. But really???

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 08:28 AM

View PostGnaw, on 01 March 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

I realize that they have to defend against the lawsuit. But really???

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 01:08 AM

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I would consider it to get off these damn things. I've wished for yrs I could have my health back and be med free and feel like the guy I was the 1st 19 yrs of my life. I think it's still going to be yrs and yrs before Louisiana approves it though.


I don't know. Legalization could happen quite quickly in legislative terms. It's not a culture war thing anymore for a significant portion of even the far right.


I think we are going to see some big changes really fast with this. Tanner, email me. I sent you a PM.
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Posted 02 March 2015 - 01:23 AM

View PostGnaw, on 01 March 2015 - 04:07 AM, said:

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I would consider it to get off these damn things. I've wished for yrs I could have my health back and be med free and feel like the guy I was the 1st 19 yrs of my life. I think it's still going to be yrs and yrs before Louisiana approves it though.


I don't know. Legalization could happen quite quickly in legislative terms. It's not a culture war thing anymore for a significant portion of even the far right.



My room-mate has his card and I live in one of the more right wing states. It may become legal this year in AZ and on the outside chance next year...

Makes Zero sense that it is not, completely absurd that it isn't....Stuff like edibles are going to be a hit when it goes live.
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Posted 02 March 2015 - 04:24 AM

Can we buy stock in any of these companies yet?
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Posted 02 March 2015 - 04:52 AM

Didn't get more than about five hours sleep last night. Ugh.
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Posted 02 March 2015 - 04:56 AM

View Postworry, on 02 March 2015 - 04:24 AM, said:

Can we buy stock in any of these companies yet?


Um..yes. When it becomes legal companies like Malabo <phillip morris> will reign supreme.

the way it currently works with legalized stuff..is to apply for the lotto, you have to have distribution set up and the pipeline already good to go. Small time farms. With corporate farming they are going to be owned by...

When the Fed drops the ruling... Phillip morris, Altria, will utterly crush them in a couple years. IMO.

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 05:05 AM

Well, I see your logic (though I'm not sure it's inevitable), but I'm not giving any of those companies money so oh well.
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Posted 02 March 2015 - 05:57 AM

View Postworry, on 02 March 2015 - 05:05 AM, said:

Well, I see your logic (though I'm not sure it's inevitable), but I'm not giving any of those companies money so oh well.


U did ask! They do own 1/3 of SABmiller too. I'm not sure its inevitable either, kinda think its very likely right lately that it plays out like this though...

I feel that if AZ goes legal it's going to cascade...don't see how you don't. I mean we are the wild west.

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 06:01 AM

View Postmelonhead, on 01 March 2015 - 02:51 AM, said:

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View Postmelonhead, on 26 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Thanks for the support everyone. Sis starting chemo soon.

Build up a supply of board games, books to read together and other hang out activities. She's going to be sitting there and fighting her ass off with your help and presence.

Best of luck to her and the family/friends.


Thanks. Thats a good idea. ill start scouting around for things to do.


And be prepared for her to feel like none of it when she's sitting there. But make the effort anyways. Also, be prepared to do a lot of sitting quietly and just keeping her company.
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Posted 02 March 2015 - 06:05 AM

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View Postmelonhead, on 26 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Thanks for the support everyone. Sis starting chemo soon.

Build up a supply of board games, books to read together and other hang out activities. She's going to be sitting there and fighting her ass off with your help and presence.

Best of luck to her and the family/friends.


Thanks. Thats a good idea. ill start scouting around for things to do.


And be prepared for her to feel like none of it when she's sitting there. But make the effort anyways. Also, be prepared to do a lot of sitting quietly and just keeping her company.


So true ^

In any of these situations just being proactive is really amazing if you can be. Lot's say anything you need! Doing is more important than asking. Those little things and extra steps can mean so much.
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Posted 02 March 2015 - 06:08 AM

I think they'll have a stake, for sure, I'm just not sure they'll crush every alternative.
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