[Hume]

quote:

Originally posted by Eru Iluvatar:
I'm making an ultimate list of al the ascendants and theire titles, just to make things clear/clearer. This is my lists. If anyone got comments/additions, please post!

ASCENDANTS

Ascendants:

Anomandaris Dragniparuke – Son of Darkness/ Knight of High House Darkness/ Moon’s Lord
*Silchas Ruin – The Betrayer
Scabandari Bloodeye – Father Shadow/ Emurlahnis/ The Betrayer
Menandore – Daughter Dawn/ The Betrayer
Sukul Ankhadu – Daughter Dapple/ The Fickle
Sheltatha Lore – Daughter Dusk
Caladan Brood – The Warlord
Envy
Spite
*Ganoes Stabro Paran – Master of the Deck

Elder Gods:

K’rul – Elder God of the Warrens/ Path-Shaper of the Dragon Hold
Draconus – Forger of the sword Dragnipur
Sister of Cold Nights
Mael – Elder God of the Seas
Kilmandaros
Sechul Lath
*Osric/Osserc/Osseric – Lord of the Sky/ Champion Of High House Light
*

Local Gods:

Whirlwind Goddess/Drjyhna
Seregahl – The five gods of the Tarthenal (Thelomen Toblakai)
*Eres’al – Of the Eres/Goddess of the Nerek

Ascendants groups:

Bridgeburners – Protectors of the Master of the Deck
Deragoth/ The Seven Hounds of Darkness - Of the First Empire of Dessimbelackis
Hounds of Shadow – Of High House Shadow
Great Ravens – Ravens sustained by magic
*Barghast Gods

Semi-ascendants:

Icarium
*Baudin – Knight of High House Death
Kallor – The High King/ Reaver of High House Chains
Gods of the Teblor/ The Seven Faces in the Rock/ of the Dead Fires/ The Unbound - Of High House Chains

I wouldnt exactly label Silchas as the betrayer.
paran hasnt actually been officially labeled an ascendant either, he is still mortal after all but just quite powerful in a certain way.
Osserc isnt an elder god he is part of the Tiste group along with Anomander and Menandore etc in the group above.
Im pretty sure there are a couple more elder gods too. Might want to add Olar ethil into the ascendant group as well.
Not sure about Tiam FL and MD having positions in the hosues as well.
I personally would put the eresal god or goddess I think it is in the unformed gods part.
I'd put the Barghast gods in the Gods section too them being gods.
I'd probly label Baudin as an ascendant as well, Hood saw him good enough as a replacement for Dassem Ultor after all.

Apart from that Good List !

[amirebram]

quote:

Hetan said: "Tiam - since when was she Queen of Dragons?"

I think this is refering to MT and the Hold cards. Feather Witch says; the Queen [of the Dragon Hold] lies bleeding and may never rise again.

[Morgoth]

The Crippled God occupies no position in the house of chains, or so it was stated in MoI.

[Murrin]

Anomandar Rake's full name is Anomandaris Irake - supposedly Dragnipurake was a mistake. Anomander was around at least 600,000 years before Dragnipur was completed, so it'd be strange if he was named after it.

[vaiski]

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GotM
'Silananah' she screamed, laughing. 'Dragnipurake t'na Draconiaes! Eleint, eleint!'

This is Crone, seeing Silanah and four Andii soletakens flying to meet Raest. Dunno what it means but it seems to mean something besides the sword too.
Anyways, whatever it is, Irake is the full name indeed.

[Rich the Great]

We discussed this ages ago, I seem to remember. Reckon "Dragnipurake" means something along the lines of "weapon/tool of darkness," which would fit both Rake and the sword.

[Murrin]

Dragnipurake was only ever used in GotM. He was called Irake in one of the later books.

[g_forcez]

what about stormy gesler truth travellor? semi ascendents?