[Omtose]

Thats just it Kas, they are not all in your family....and I didn't take any offence

[Tellan]

This game isn't going anywhere at the moment. Have to work and stuff for a while, check back in later.

[Gamelon]

Since Omtose blocked Galain, Galain's input is moot at this point. And since nobody is taking any initiative, I'm gonna do it instead. I agree with my don that Emur is likely triad.

vote Emurlahn

[Emurlahn]

I have thought, and think there is a way I can prove my innocence.

Tennes said he was a grunt.
If we lynch Tennes, then he either:
Comes up guilty and is either: Original triad OR I recruited him, since Galain was guarded.

I doubt he will come up inno but if he does:
Then Galain is Triad, because he was guarded and therefore could not recruit.

Feel free to pick any holes in this.

[Gamelon]

Well since I think you're triad, that's not very hard to pick apart. I don't get the Galain part, am I being slow?

[Omtose]

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 12:40 PM, said:

I have thought, and think there is a way I can prove my innocence.

Tennes said he was a grunt.
If we lynch Tennes, then he either:
Comes up guilty and is either: Original triad OR I recruited him, since Galain was guarded.

I doubt he will come up inno but if he does:
Then Galain is Triad, because he was guarded and therefore could not recruit.

Feel free to pick any holes in this.

The one glaring hole in this is.....wait for it!!!.........You get another family man killed and you win the game.....other than that, I would consider it.

[Emurlahn]

Umm, how do I win, if im Triad.

Left we have 3 dons, and a poisoner. If Tennes dies, Gam is the only other POSSIBLE recruit. That leaves 50/50 chance of me having ONE recruit.

I'd be left with 2 people, and 4 unrecruitables. Yay, what a "win" that would be.

Edit: Not only that, but you're a guard.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 15 October 2008 - 04:50 PM

[Gamelon]

Look, poor Obdi is on, cheers Obdi! Having fun with the spoilers?

[Emurlahn]

Poor guy. Modkills have just been so stupid this game.

[Omtose]

I look at it this way. There are 3 triad, two nouv, and two Di L.

[Emurlahn]

Gamelon, on Oct 15 2008, 05:44 PM, said:

Well since I think you're triad, that's not very hard to pick apart. I don't get the Galain part, am I being slow?

The galain part is the key kind of.
Either me, galain, or Tennes is the triad. Original. Tennes says he's a grunt. Therefore he is a MASSIVE recruit target, as well as a 1/3 chance of being triad. In fact, he's the only one to claim grunt, so therefore, an almost certain recruit target. Now, the galain part:

If we lynch Tennes, and(unlikely as it is) he comes up inno, this means that Galain is the triad. Why? Because he was blocked from recruiting Tennes, whereas I wasnt.

It is the most logical reason I can come up with to prove my innocence, other than all the verging on WIFOM "Why would I bring so much attention to myself" etc arguments.

[Gamelon]

Omtose, on Oct 15 2008, 05:55 PM, said:

I look at it this way. There are 3 triad, two nouv, and two Di L.

I guess that's a possiblity, and a scary one at that. If we pick from the ones claiming DL, we have 50% chance of hitting a triad. I don't really think Tellan is triad, but I guess caution is in order.

[Gamelon]

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 05:59 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Oct 15 2008, 05:44 PM, said:

Well since I think you're triad, that's not very hard to pick apart. I don't get the Galain part, am I being slow?

The galain part is the key kind of.
Either me, galain, or Tennes is the triad. Original. Tennes says he's a grunt. Therefore he is a MASSIVE recruit target, as well as a 1/3 chance of being triad. In fact, he's the only one to claim grunt, so therefore, an almost certain recruit target. Now, the galain part:

If we lynch Tennes, and(unlikely as it is) he comes up inno, this means that Galain is the triad. Why? Because he was blocked from recruiting Tennes, whereas I wasnt.

It is the most logical reason I can come up with to prove my innocence, other than all the verging on WIFOM "Why would I bring so much attention to myself" etc arguments.

You know, I would almost believe that argument, if you hadn't said before that you don't think triad would have recruited Tennes. Now you suddenly change opinion?

[Emurlahn]

Omtose, on Oct 15 2008, 05:55 PM, said:

I look at it this way. There are 3 triad, two nouv, and two Di L.

3 triad?
So that means Me, Tennes, and Tellan, since you seem to trust Galain.

Well, Me and Tennes could be, but hopefully, if you lynch Tennes, it will prove im not. If you think he's triad anyway, it wont matter if you lynch him. Just make sure to guard who you think the original is, instead of guessing at the others.

Also, Tellan is a don. Now, this would be helped if HP had cleared, but he didnt. Yes, we cant 100% trust him, because we dont know his role, and have no way to test anything he says. I cant speak for him though, so he'll have to defend himself. Same for Tennes.

[Emurlahn]

Gamelon, on Oct 15 2008, 06:02 PM, said:

You know, I would almost believe that argument, if you hadn't said before that you don't think triad would have recruited Tennes. Now you suddenly change opinion?

No, I said it was possible that the triad hadnt. Possible. I think its pretty likely, since he's an admitted grunt. I try to take all the possibilities in when I think.
Please don't twist my words.
Unless I did say it and have forgotten, whereas i'm just thinking logically.

[Emurlahn]

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 03:47 PM, said:

Fuck.

Edit: He may not have been recruited lat night, but previously. Or, he could be original triad.

This?
"May not". Its not exactly a change of opinion. I also was confused then. I've thought things through a bit. Im not saying this will DEFINETLY prove im innocent. Just that it could.

Anyway, dinner now, back min half an hour.

[Gamelon]

My point is that your idea doesn't prove anything. It is possible triad didn't recruit Tennes. I personally don't think it's likely, I think triad, if he was alone, had to do something.

It's funny, because a triad could recruit Tennes, go for a Tennes lynch with the argument you're using and then when Tennes comes up guilty, you'll use that as an argument for your innocence - that you never would have pushed for Tennes lynch. Considering that the only option would be that you get lynched yourself, the quite gutsy plan isn't that crazy as it sounds. It's WIFOM I know, but I'm considering every possibility.


Edit: I mean I do think it's likely that triad recruited Tennes. Negation blackout.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 15 October 2008 - 05:17 PM

[Path-Shaper]

It is now day 6 26 hours remaining

There are 7 players remaining: Omtose, Galain, Gamelon, Kaschan, Emurlahn,Tellan,Tennes

4 votes to lynch, 3 to go to night.

2 vote for Emurlahn (Omtose, Gamelon)
1 vote for Tennes (Emurlahn)

[Kaschan]

umm, so yeah, Omtose, lol
if you think there are three triads, then fuck it, we should lynch Tellan--less risk to the DLs

Nouvs have a guard. if Gam's a poisoner, everyine else is FUCKED for endgame, cuz Guard+Poisoner is unstoppable.
if Gam's a grunt, we're fucked, cuz regardless of what happens a Triad will get him.
unless someone can suggest to me how we can deal with the uber-Nouvs afterwards, I don't see why the 3 DLs shouldn't just team up with the Triad.

[Gamelon]

Actually Kaschan, you need to peg the triad as much as anyone else. Don't you think a triad among you is dangerous? We don't know how many they are for one thing.