[D'riss]

Barghast, on Oct 6 2008, 04:45 PM, said:

Telas, on Oct 6 2008, 10:38 PM, said:

All you lot should care about is finding the enemy, right now all you know about me is I talk a lot, yet on more than one occassion it seems korvalain has said he is corleone yet only I am voting him.

Now you can't all be corleone, so that means you are all dense or he is not really corleone but really a don of the other family (not mine) and so the corleones don't want to vote him, and his true family don't, so that's were it stalled.

This is quite true, so I'm voting Korvalain.

But, Telas, could you keep your language civil, and your thoughts coherent? The second part also goes to lot of other peopkle whose names I am unable to recall ATM.

Obvious Symp is obvious.

Tellan in 284 is also making excuses to not vote Telas, and excuses to not vote anyone else, which I find interesting.

[Korvalain]

Meanas, on Oct 7 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

The difference is that Tellan only discussed the triad...whereas Barghast is discussing the FM and Tokens...which hints at him also possibly being a poisoner IF you look at it like Gamelon and co have.

Fair enough.

[Meanas]

Gamelon, on Oct 7 2008, 02:31 PM, said:

@ Meanas, I don't fucking have a problem with you 'defending' Barghast - I'm not sure he's anything special. I was just making notes.
And yes, I think the interest in the FM is called for, and doesn't have to be fishy at all. But I do however want to raise the question whether it is fishy to be civil to Telas when everybody else are fucking bashing him.



Edit: grammar

Erm... firstly check your hostility, Its completely unfounded. I have yet to give you reason to get do hostile. You seem very edgy.

Secondly...i am merely pointing out that you, either in your haste or perhaps purposefully, neglected to include me when referring how "nice" barghast and telas have been to one another, So its fine that i am "nice" to barghast but not if Telas is? Its like a smear campaign or something. I just fond the almost double standards odd and felt i should point it out.

Calm yourself please

[Meanas]

Gamelon, on Oct 7 2008, 02:34 PM, said:

Erhm, sorry, but this is my current mafia alt persona. He's a bit rough around the edges. Got a fucking problem with that?

oh really now...

[Meanas]

Kaschan, on Oct 7 2008, 02:46 PM, said:

looking over Tellan's posts, he's been alll over all kinds of role spec AND he was equally paranoid about the FM takeover.
not sure what to think about it.

Just getting ths quick post in, bbl

I actually just took Telas's case at face value and voted to add some pressure... It worked and he has come out and defended himself.

[Path-Shaper]

The Tennes alt has been modkilled for inactivity, we have found a replacement for that alt, so the game will continue with that replacement taking over the Tennes alt.

Tennes was Khell.

Everyone feel free to boo Khell.

[Korvalain]

BOOOOOOOOOOO!

[D'riss]

Meanas, on Oct 7 2008, 09:00 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Oct 7 2008, 02:46 PM, said:

looking over Tellan's posts, he's been alll over all kinds of role spec AND he was equally paranoid about the FM takeover.
not sure what to think about it.

Just getting ths quick post in, bbl

I actually just took Telas's case at face value and voted to add some pressure... It worked and he has come out and defended himself.

But WHY did you take his case at face value? His attempt at getting people to make mistakes failed, so he is liable to say anything to escape.

[Meanas]

Boooooooooooooooo khell....bhoooooo :zanth:

[Kaschan]

oki, secured a comp, gotta do some research, but can check in once in a while.
All the cases today seem weak so far
Tellan and Barg are accused of being the Triad and FM, respectively--based on some slightly odd behaviour. sure, it could be paranoia, but this is mafia, and as a sgeneral rule, the person with overhyped paranoia has something to hide..
Korv has a case on himself for being a Corleone--the most concrete piece of info me may posess at the moment. However, voting him off based on that is dangngerous for every one of us, as it clears up the families a bit and it may easily turn into a "Corleone hunt", the way 17 degenerated into a "Culture hunt", following a day 1 Culture lynch.
now, I realize this may make me sound like an obvious Corleone, but I just don't want this to get one-sided again.
likewise, the case on Telas is that he is NOT a Corleone (wifom speculations aside). meaning, he's an unknown that ends to irritate people. voting for him, (unless he is a don and is known to his family), allows the rest of us to retain our anonymity. at this point, I feel that's a good thing.

EDIT: I cross-post with PS a lot.
boo, Khell. that "lynch-after-1-post" in 28 was bad enough... who's going to fake-reveal a Triad find now?

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 07 October 2008 - 02:17 PM

[Meanas]

D'riss, on Oct 7 2008, 03:14 PM, said:

Meanas, on Oct 7 2008, 09:00 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Oct 7 2008, 02:46 PM, said:

looking over Tellan's posts, he's been alll over all kinds of role spec AND he was equally paranoid about the FM takeover.
not sure what to think about it.

Just getting ths quick post in, bbl

I actually just took Telas's case at face value and voted to add some pressure... It worked and he has come out and defended himself.

But WHY did you take his case at face value? His attempt at getting people to make mistakes failed, so he is liable to say anything to escape.

He didnt quote anything...I didnt feel like checking through all of tellan's posts.
Thought it was worth it to stir the pot and see what tellan has to say for himself.

and...why not...it seemed decent enough at the time...now i see tellan has been speculative about lots of things..not only the FM.

Just to be clear, as i said this morning Telas is by no means in the good books for me, i just want to get a feel for some other people. My feelings are he will receive a few tokens tonight anyways. Same as Korvalain he will more than likely get a Don trying him out tonight...so theres no harm in sussing out new information?

Or is there?

[Kaschan]

no
looking for info is all we can really do now--hassle people, try to get a don and see his entire family jump to his rescue
*/dreaming of an ideal game*

the trick is to not reveal too much of yourself in the process
at this point, uncertainty is good.
that's why, mathematically speaking, Telas is still a good candidate, sorta.

[Meanas]

I understand perfectly about the whole anonymity thing with regards to voting Telas...I just dont see what the rush is, everyone seems rather eager to vote him off.
I am merely trying to see what peoples reasons are other than the obligatory "he's irritating and spamming" which frankly isnt a good enough reason by itself.

[Kaschan]

i am not at all in a rush--we got 8 and a half hours till deadline.
Do you think we should lynch someone today? or would you rather let the night actions sort things out?

(this is a question to everyone, not just Meanas, by the way)

to bring up a tired point: lynching brings us information. so do trains, no matter how weak.

[Korvalain]

If we hit triad on day 1, then the threat is removed, and we're all happy. Same with FM, but for him we have 2 days.

Even otherwise, if you're sure someone is not in your team, then voting him is better for you than going to night, that's for sure. Who knows, that person might be poisoner or vig.

Edit: and for these reasons I'll be happy to lynch Telas today, and Tellan or Barghast tomorrow.

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 07 October 2008 - 02:38 PM

[Meanas]

Korvalain, on Oct 7 2008, 03:36 PM, said:

If we hit triad on day 1, then the threat is removed, and we're all happy. Same with FM, but for him we have 2 days.

Even otherwise, if you're sure someone is not in your team, then voting him is better for you than going to night, that's for sure. Who knows, that person might be poisoner or vig.

Edit: and for these reasons I'll be happy to lynch Telas today, and Tellan or Barghast tomorrow.

For those reasons?
So you are certain that Telas, tellan and Barghast are not in your team?...

[Korvalain]

Meanas, on Oct 7 2008, 05:44 PM, said:

Korvalain, on Oct 7 2008, 03:36 PM, said:

If we hit triad on day 1, then the threat is removed, and we're all happy. Same with FM, but for him we have 2 days.

Even otherwise, if you're sure someone is not in your team, then voting him is better for you than going to night, that's for sure. Who knows, that person might be poisoner or vig.

Edit: and for these reasons I'll be happy to lynch Telas today, and Tellan or Barghast tomorrow.

For those reasons?
So you are certain that Telas, tellan and Barghast are not in your team?...

No, I'm quite certain Telas is unteamed, and I have a feeling Barghast is the FM. Also, I kinda agree about what you guys said about Tellan.

[Fener]

Meanas, on Oct 7 2008, 03:29 PM, said:

I understand perfectly about the whole anonymity thing with regards to voting Telas...I just dont see what the rush is, everyone seems rather eager to vote him off.
I am merely trying to see what peoples reasons are other than the obligatory "he's irritating and spamming" which frankly isnt a good enough reason by itself.

Last I looked Telas had only 3 votes so I don't really see a huge rush on voting him off yet. With 11 votes needed 3 is barely the start of a train.

I think that several people are pissed off at Telas's type of game play. It isn't so much the spamming cause that happens in almost every single game. I think that it is the fact that if Telas is a grunt then the possibility that he might be attacking someone else in his alliance is what people find irritating. I think that he started out trying to get people to make mistakes and reveal which alliance they were with. He got Korvalain to make that mistake but that is it. Something that I find really interesting is that more people aren't attacking Korvalain for being an Corleone. What it is going to come down to is that Telas belongs to one clan and Korvalain is a Corleone. I am fine waiting till the last 2 hours in the day to do the lynch. Just to see if anyone else slips up.

Also BOOOOOOOOOOOOO KELLLL..

Hope everything is ok in his life.

[Kaschan]

I am not certain Telas is not on my team. there's a 22% chance that he is. Same goes for Tellan and Barghast. I won't cvomment on Korv, because his faction's virtually known and what I say may reveal my own alignment, which I'd like to avoid atm.

out of the 3, Barghast and Telas are both suspicious to me.

EDIT: also, cross post with Fener. Telas has 4 votes. Korv, Gamelon, Shadow and Emu.
just to be pedantic,

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 07 October 2008 - 02:54 PM

[Korvalain]

Fener, on Oct 7 2008, 05:51 PM, said:

He got Korvalain to make that mistake but that is it. Something that I find really interesting is that more people aren't attacking Korvalain for being an Corleone. What it is going to come down to is that Telas belongs to one clan and Korvalain is a Corleone. I am fine waiting till the last 2 hours in the day to do the lynch. Just to see if anyone else slips up.

I'd like to see how you would do against the Eye of Sauron in full back-pedaling Tourette's mode

I correct (reassure) you: Telas most probably does not belong to one clan. If you are, ask yourself this: did you start the day random-voting and raising hell?