[Emurlahn]

If we hit Tennes, and he is DL(unlikely, but possible) then we have 2 actual DLs left. That would be the end of our majority.

[Gamelon]

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 07:03 PM, said:

I know, I forgot that when doing my logic thing above.
Yes, but there are 4 claiming to be DL. If Tennes is recruited, or triad already, thats 3. If we lynch him today, and no one dies of poison, that 3v3. At worst, a draw.

You forget the FUCKING ORIGINAL Triad! Fucking stupid idiot fuck! You cannot get a draw!

[Gamelon]

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 07:05 PM, said:

If we hit Tennes, and he is DL(unlikely, but possible) then we have 2 actual DLs left. That would be the end of our majority.

Well bohoo, hit the fucking triad then! It's not like the Triad will be so impressed with this that they will let you live.

Seriously Emur, if you keep arguing for the same stupid fucking thing, you'll be on my fucking list!

I'm convinced you're triad now, and congrats to trying coerce DL into giving you the game. Fucking brilliant.

[Emurlahn]

There are 3 DL.
You and Tennes are the only others who would be recruitable.
That makes 3, max.
If I wanted the game handed to me, you think I would be trying to lynch the 2 people that I could recruit possibly?

[Omtose]

Kaschan, on Oct 15 2008, 01:45 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 01:40 PM, said:

Kaschan, are you suggesting that we ignore the triad and hit a nouv now, then worry about triad some other time/make peace. Not sure its the best of ideas, but hey, your the boss.

Worst case scenario:

There are 3 triads. We also know there are 3 DL. Therefore, if we take out a definete non-DL, we draw with the triads. I doubt there are 3, but its possible, so ive taken the worst case. I can actually see where you're coming from. If we lynch a non-DL, then we get, at worst, a draw, rather than a loss to the nouvs. I dunno. Who would you advise lynching?

If I had to pick a non-DL, id say gamelon. Reasons:

He's either a grunt(therefore possible triad) or a poisoner.

If hes a triad, we can foil the triads worst case scenario, and possibly win.
If hes a poisoner, then tonight he can take out someone, which if he is DL, we are a man down.

Edit: Forgot Galain was blocked, so it might not be Tennes that died, so edited to make sense.

i'm not saying we NECESSARILY have to hit a Nouv today.
but I want to know people's roles--and that means EVERYONE, before making a decision.
I can live with voting off a nouv tomorrow, but I need to be sure we can do it--for all I know, gam's a poisoner, and i already have a token.
we need to think and negotiate this tho.
I don't see a plausible win for my team if Gam's a poisoner. that IS a problem, and i intend to deal with it BEFORE i vote off someone who may be a Di Lauro

Edit: if it's a lose-lose for my family, why shold I care if it goes to the Triads or Nouvs?

Pretty oneway there Kas. I had no problem helping your team when it looked like mine was fucked. I don't know if Gam is the poisioner. I can only hope. You have to know that I knew Galain would be targeting me. I may play at being stupid, but trust I'm not. I know if my numbers are right and Gam does turn out to be the Nouv poisioner we can win.But If she isn't then we will end up with a dead lock. I myself want the scum gone. Triad is scum.

[Gamelon]

Man, I'm so angry, I need to take a fucking break. I'd understand not wanting to lose, but fucking giving the game to the triad, that's just fucking messed up!!!

[Omtose]

Gam calm the fuck down....your not helping right now.

[Omtose]

Gamelon, on Oct 15 2008, 02:13 PM, said:

Man, I'm so angry, I need to take a fucking break. I'd understand not wanting to lose, but fucking giving the game to the triad, that's just fucking messed up!!!

Go get a nice cup of tea, listen to some nice calming music.....then kick the dog.....

[Emurlahn]

Rofl.

[Path-Shaper]

Ahem...NO dog kicking allowed.

[Emurlahn]

Time check please?

[Omtose]

That angry smilie is fucking hilarious...watch it all the way thru.....lol

[Emurlahn]

Haha. Thank you. I shall use that. Virtual rep for you.

[Kaschan]

well, I guess i'm more selfish than you, then Omtose...
I had no qualms about helping you guys all day yesterday--even when it looked like you were sure to lynch me.
I have no freaking clue who Galain was gonna go for, but knowing him I'm actually thinking he WOULD have hit Tennes.
look, I don't know how many freaking Triads there are.
if we agree that there are three, then with their neat little story Emur and Tella must be it. if so, I'm willing to hit Tellan
if there are two or one, they're hiding in the ranks of DL pretenders. right now these guys are willing to vote with me, since it proves that they are DL.

now, look. I KNOW I can't win. But I don't want to just lose, esp not if Gam turns out to be an unblockable poisoner who got a chance to survive to endgame.
I want this to end in a draw.
Me, you, Tellan, Galain.

2 DLs, 1 Cor, 1 Nouv.
I HAVE to go with worst-case scenario that Gam is a poisoner, unless I hear otherwise.
if so, then look:
today we vote off Emu.
At night, both poisoners hit Tennes
Tellan heals me, I heal you, Omtose.
tomorrow, me, Tellan and Galain vote off Gam.
you block Galain's kills
perpetual stalemate, the remainders of the battered families join up and form a joint stock business venture.

[Emurlahn]

Omtose would win with his guards.
He could block tellan, and thus allow Gamelon to kill you, then deal with Tennes later.

Edit: Well, I say you, I mean whoever Gamelon poisoned last night.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 15 October 2008 - 06:32 PM

[Kaschan]

yes, well... it's an offer i'm willing to put on the table.

considering that otherwise, it's a lose-lose situation for DLs--but we can take down the Nouvs as well..

[Omtose]

Kaschan, on Oct 15 2008, 02:28 PM, said:

well, I guess i'm more selfish than you, then Omtose...
I had no qualms about helping you guys all day yesterday--even when it looked like you were sure to lynch me.
I have no freaking clue who Galain was gonna go for, but knowing him I'm actually thinking he WOULD have hit Tennes.
look, I don't know how many freaking Triads there are.
if we agree that there are three, then with their neat little story Emur and Tella must be it. if so, I'm willing to hit Tellan
if there are two or one, they're hiding in the ranks of DL pretenders. right now these guys are willing to vote with me, since it proves that they are DL.

now, look. I KNOW I can't win. But I don't want to just lose, esp not if Gam turns out to be an unblockable poisoner who got a chance to survive to endgame.
I want this to end in a draw.
Me, you, Tellan, Galain.

2 DLs, 1 Cor, 1 Nouv.
I HAVE to go with worst-case scenario that Gam is a poisoner, unless I hear otherwise.
if so, then look:
today we vote off Emu.
At night, both poisoners hit Tennes
Tellan heals me, I heal you, Omtose.
tomorrow, me, Tellan and Galain vote off Gam.
you block Galain's kills
perpetual stalemate, the remainders of the battered families join up and form a joint stock business venture.

No dice. I'm not selling out My ONE family member. If you want to sell out to the triad, more power to you. You and the triad can vote me off.

You know who I am, and I know you know how I play.

[Omtose]

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 02:31 PM, said:

Omtose would win with his guards.
He could block tellan, and thus allow Gamelon to kill you, then deal with Tennes later.

Edit: Well, I say you, I mean whoever Gamelon poisoned last night.

glad your finaly catching up with the rest of us.....

[Emurlahn]

Hey, im tired, leave me alone

[Kaschan]

well then guess we're stuck
don't forget, you're asking me to quite possibly sell out TWO (if it's just Galain who's Triad) to let YOU win.