[Galain]

haha too many theories flyin about!!

Tennes

i went for Tennes

but if i was blocked then that sucks balls

[Gamelon]

Fucking flying monkey balls, Kaschan! We need to get the triad, or this game is lost for all fucking families!

[Kaschan]

yeah, i'm keen on that
BUT
you're the one that's been preaching that "the game will get interesting" once the triad's out
As of yesterday, the Di Lauro had 3. it's possiblte we still do. this isn't "town v. scum", it's a merc game.
you're asking me to quite possibly sacrifice 1 or 2 of my fellow family players, possibly reducing my team's winning chances to 0 in the process.
you, Tellan and Emu all are unconfirmed, as you have claimed no roles. Actually, tellan claims to be don # 2, so a healer.
suppose we vote off the two suspects (tennes + Emur). Barring no other losses, that will leave us with a healer, a healer and a poisoner and, quite possibly, a poisoner (you--going off worst case scenario) and a guard.
in this scenario, unless tellan feel noble and stupid, Nouvs win everytime.
you're asking me (and through me, the DLs) to give up our one advantage--a plurality of votes. before we do that, I need to hear some guarantees.

[Galain]

man why wud omtose block me? thats just plain mean!

if we lynch the rong person we're fucked lol its official! hope it goes to the wire for the families tho

EDIT: is it between Tennes and Emur then? hmm Kas is right, it spks no fair on DL to me!

This post has been edited by Galain: 15 October 2008 - 05:41 PM

[Emurlahn]

Kaschan, are you suggesting that we ignore the triad and hit a nouv now, then worry about triad some other time/make peace. Not sure its the best of ideas, but hey, your the boss.

Worst case scenario:

There are 3 triads. We also know there are 3 DL. Therefore, if we take out a definete non-DL, we draw with the triads. I doubt there are 3, but its possible, so ive taken the worst case. I can actually see where you're coming from. If we lynch a non-DL, then we get, at worst, a draw, rather than a loss to the nouvs. I dunno. Who would you advise lynching?

If I had to pick a non-DL, id say gamelon. Reasons:

He's either a grunt(therefore possible triad) or a poisoner.

If hes a triad, we can foil the triads worst case scenario, and possibly win.
If hes a poisoner, then tonight he can take out someone, which if he is DL, we are a man down.

Edit: Forgot Galain was blocked, so it might not be Tennes that died, so edited to make sense.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 15 October 2008 - 05:41 PM

[Kaschan]

Galain, on Oct 15 2008, 01:37 PM, said:

man why wud omtose block me? thats just plain mean!

if we lynch the rong person we're fucked lol its official! hope it goes to the wire for the families tho

Because you're in a diferent family and he has no reason to trust you.
admittedly, the lack of trust goes both ways, as if we vote off Emu and tennes, we'll be fucked, unless it gets to be omtose + Tellan vs me and you.

[Galain]

hmm why is no one gunnin for Omtose?

[Emurlahn]

Gamelon would still be alive, and supporting omtose remember.

[Emurlahn]

Galain, on Oct 15 2008, 06:42 PM, said:

hmm why is no one gunnin for Omtose?

Guards don't kill people, Rappers do.

[Kaschan]

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 01:40 PM, said:

Kaschan, are you suggesting that we ignore the triad and hit a nouv now, then worry about triad some other time/make peace. Not sure its the best of ideas, but hey, your the boss.

Worst case scenario:

There are 3 triads. We also know there are 3 DL. Therefore, if we take out a definete non-DL, we draw with the triads. I doubt there are 3, but its possible, so ive taken the worst case. I can actually see where you're coming from. If we lynch a non-DL, then we get, at worst, a draw, rather than a loss to the nouvs. I dunno. Who would you advise lynching?

If I had to pick a non-DL, id say gamelon. Reasons:

He's either a grunt(therefore possible triad) or a poisoner.

If hes a triad, we can foil the triads worst case scenario, and possibly win.
If hes a poisoner, then tonight he can take out someone, which if he is DL, we are a man down.

Edit: Forgot Galain was blocked, so it might not be Tennes that died, so edited to make sense.

i'm not saying we NECESSARILY have to hit a Nouv today.
but I want to know people's roles--and that means EVERYONE, before making a decision.
I can live with voting off a nouv tomorrow, but I need to be sure we can do it--for all I know, gam's a poisoner, and i already have a token.
we need to think and negotiate this tho.
I don't see a plausible win for my team if Gam's a poisoner. that IS a problem, and i intend to deal with it BEFORE i vote off someone who may be a Di Lauro

Edit: if it's a lose-lose for my family, why shold I care if it goes to the Triads or Nouvs?

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 15 October 2008 - 05:47 PM

[Galain]

haha bo!!

EDIT: hmm this is gona be a lot more complicated than first thought!

i'd rather take a risk and gun outside our team. i like risks

This post has been edited by Galain: 15 October 2008 - 05:47 PM

[Kaschan]

okay, something to share: i still haven't really eaten today, and im fucking starving.
i'll be off for thenext half hour due to this.

[Tellan]

Wow, this is all getting really complicated.

Ok, I'm a doctor. I dont see how this really helps though? Why would Gam admit to being a poisoner if he was one? Especially cos the only people a reveal would help are the Di Lauro...

[Emurlahn]

Well, he's either Poisoner or grunt. Kind of win-win lynching him.

[Gamelon]

Well, I can see where you're coming from, Kaschan, but I'm not sure what kind of guarantees you want.
However, I don't get why you talk about sacrificing one of your team - we're tying to hit the one not in your team, the triad, remember? Unless you honestly think triad is not one of the people that has claimed DL, I don't know what the the fuck you're talking about, you stupid fuck!

Question: who do you think is triad and why? Remember that if we don't hit triad or Tennes, tennes will be recruited, With one more player down, you'll have less chance beat the triad. For fucks sake, I don't expect you to sacrifice a family member, I just want to get the triad! Which will help you just as it helps us. Hitting a non DL that isn't triad will not make the game a draw. NOT. Because of Tennes.



Edit: actually, Emur going so hard for a lynch like that, just proves to me he's triad, since he'll gain alot from it. If you are too stupid to see that, then you deserve to lose this game.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 15 October 2008 - 05:57 PM

[Gamelon]

It's not like I don't realize you're in a tough spot, but hey there has to be some limit to the stupidity fest!

[Emurlahn]

Yes, but if lynch tennes today, we lose the majority(if he is DL)
Whereas if lynch him tommorow, we dont.

Edited to make sense.

Edit 2: Especially if you kill someone with poison tonight.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 15 October 2008 - 06:02 PM

[Gamelon]

Emurlahn, on Oct 15 2008, 07:00 PM, said:

Yes, but if lynch tennes today, we lose the majority(if he is DL)
Whereas if lynch him tommorow, we dont.

Yes, you do, because he'll be recruited - if he isn't already. If someone is recruited, they're no longer in your family, stupid.

[Emurlahn]

I know, I forgot that when doing my logic thing above.
Yes, but there are 4 claiming to be DL. If Tennes is recruited, or triad already, thats 3. If we lynch him today, and no one dies of poison, that 3v3. At worst, a draw.

[Gamelon]

Man, I'm about to give up, this stupidity is too overwhelming.