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Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)
#1002 Guest_Gamelon_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:08 PM
Telas;376222 said:
Kaschan, Liosan, Fener and D'riss were first voters on Galain. I would assume one of those is BB, no?
Edit: Unless of course Galain is BB. Fuck! Just kill them both anyway!
Edit: Unless of course Galain is BB. Fuck! Just kill them both anyway!
Also check out Galain's first reaction to me. He was trying to find a way to explain how there could be two people silenced I thought that was smart and ment that he probably was innocent.
#1003 Guest_Gamelon_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:09 PM
Kaschan;376231 said:
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Exactly.
#1004 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:10 PM
Gamelon;376232 said:
Also check out Galain's first reaction to me. He was trying to find a way to explain how there could be two people silenced I thought that was smart and ment that he probably was innocent.
:angel::angel::angel::angel::angel:
#1005 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:12 PM
Wow... I see a monumental Fuck up right here. Lets just all calm down till us CI 's 
can have a 'inno' look at things. There is lots of time. I'm too goddam tired to deal with this fucking khell wanna be session. Just try and restrain yourselves fellars. She still needs to get her 'maiden head' before She is eligible for mariage! goin to sleep after this last glass of plonk.
can have a 'inno' look at things. There is lots of time. I'm too goddam tired to deal with this fucking khell wanna be session. Just try and restrain yourselves fellars. She still needs to get her 'maiden head' before She is eligible for mariage! goin to sleep after this last glass of plonk.
#1006 Guest_Liosan_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:14 PM
Kaschan;376231 said:
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I guess. But I don't know what conclusions to draw from this. Although I have to admit it was a brilliant move by Gamelon.
#1008 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:15 PM
Mockra;376235 said:
Wow... I see a monumental Fuck up right here. Lets just all calm down till us CI 's can have a 'inno' look at things. There is lots of time. I'm too goddam tired to deal with this fucking khell wanna be session. Just try and restrain yourselves fellars. She still needs to get her 'maiden head' before She is eligible for mariage! goin to sleep after this last glass of plonk.
can have a 'inno' look at things. There is lots of time. I'm too goddam tired to deal with this fucking khell wanna be session. Just try and restrain yourselves fellars. She still needs to get her 'maiden head' before She is eligible for mariage! goin to sleep after this last glass of plonk.
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#1009 Guest_Telas_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:18 PM
These are the vote posts of the first four to vote on Galain. Note that D'riss' vote was actually quite a bit later (but only one post I think in between his finding out and voting, or maybe not any).
I'd say these were reasonable reasons to vote at the time. Perhaps got just a bit too excited to have something to go on?
"I realised my error, let's just lynch the bastard". Perhaps a bit of a dodgy reason?
This is interesting. Doesn't think Galain is BB. Because he knows Galain won't be BB?
He reasons what seemingly turns out to be the truth in his third theory.
Kaschan;375991 said:
Ok then. Im certian one is BB(why would UB fake knowing someone was silenced), and am more inclined to believe its Galain.
His accusing Telas of faking it thing.
He was the first to claim silence. Almost immediately. Gamelons seems more like a counter-reveal.
I reckon theres more reason for Galain to fake it. Why would Gamelon, knowing Galain was already silenced.
He hasnt contributed much, neither have, but Gamelon claims a reason at least.
Therefore:
Vote Galain
This is one of those cases where I am fine with lynching someone silenced. Because, even if we unfortuneately hit an inno, we will get an evil the next day. I reckon theres more chance Galain is evil, so am voting him, which will hopefully prevent losing an inno. If hes inno, then Gamelon, you're next.
His accusing Telas of faking it thing.
He was the first to claim silence. Almost immediately. Gamelons seems more like a counter-reveal.
I reckon theres more reason for Galain to fake it. Why would Gamelon, knowing Galain was already silenced.
He hasnt contributed much, neither have, but Gamelon claims a reason at least.
Therefore:
Vote Galain
This is one of those cases where I am fine with lynching someone silenced. Because, even if we unfortuneately hit an inno, we will get an evil the next day. I reckon theres more chance Galain is evil, so am voting him, which will hopefully prevent losing an inno. If hes inno, then Gamelon, you're next.
I'd say these were reasonable reasons to vote at the time. Perhaps got just a bit too excited to have something to go on?
Liosan;376065 said:
Gah, now I'm gonna look like an ass. But I realized that the correct course is to not give people time to reveal, as Kaschan said. I'll be back in about an hour.
vote Galain
vote Galain
"I realised my error, let's just lynch the bastard". Perhaps a bit of a dodgy reason?
Fener;375995 said:
cross posts all around
It would be gutsy for BB to "claim" silenced, so I'm not quite sure Galain's BB. But, hell, if he is, all the better.
anyhoo
vote Galain
and let's see where this will go
It would be gutsy for BB to "claim" silenced, so I'm not quite sure Galain's BB. But, hell, if he is, all the better.
anyhoo
vote Galain
and let's see where this will go
This is interesting. Doesn't think Galain is BB. Because he knows Galain won't be BB?
D said:
What the fuck?! I just decided to check the topic while the oven's heating my pizza before I go out and then there is this....
Quick recap of thoughts...
1) Galain used his weak ass case, which he solidly advertised as such, to broadcast his next move to UB and is BB.
This has the following requirements/side-effects:
a) There would be a hint to UB then somewhere in the case itself, why take the risk otherwise...
Galain was out really fast with his message after the night resolution, before all others had been on, so he was taking a really big risk and trusting massively in his symp having understood him correctly...
Basically, if he is BB, he needed to instruct UB to act dead for today. Is there a clue in these messages if you read it back with a symp's or killers mind?
If so, UB is now cursing and ranting on the spoilerboard..... or should be
2) On the other hand, we have Gamelon.
Poor, sick, 'please lynch me dead' Gamelon. The sick man has risen since and apparently never felt better because he has a shitload of pictures at the ready to throw at us... although it might be the outrage, of course...
I'm torn between the two...
On the one hand, Galain's Gamble (if he is scum) is pulled of with gusto and could be with all the confidence of a killer who knows he has a second life if he is screwed....
On the other hand, Gamelon could be sowing chaos by faking being silenced and counterrevealing, also knowing that he has a second life... I'd nearly say: lynch the one, vig the other, but not so sure now....
There is a third possibility: Gamelon trying to make the hardest case we have up until now cause all the others are piss poor... and if so, he could well be an inno lying... never a godo thing...but it is one we cannot ignore...
I'll state though that of the two, I'm willing to
vote Galain
Quick recap of thoughts...
1) Galain used his weak ass case, which he solidly advertised as such, to broadcast his next move to UB and is BB.
This has the following requirements/side-effects:
a) There would be a hint to UB then somewhere in the case itself, why take the risk otherwise...
Galain was out really fast with his message after the night resolution, before all others had been on, so he was taking a really big risk and trusting massively in his symp having understood him correctly...Basically, if he is BB, he needed to instruct UB to act dead for today. Is there a clue in these messages if you read it back with a symp's or killers mind?
If so, UB is now cursing and ranting on the spoilerboard..... or should be
2) On the other hand, we have Gamelon.
Poor, sick, 'please lynch me dead' Gamelon. The sick man has risen since and apparently never felt better because he has a shitload of pictures at the ready to throw at us... although it might be the outrage, of course...
I'm torn between the two...
On the one hand, Galain's Gamble (if he is scum) is pulled of with gusto and could be with all the confidence of a killer who knows he has a second life if he is screwed....
On the other hand, Gamelon could be sowing chaos by faking being silenced and counterrevealing, also knowing that he has a second life... I'd nearly say: lynch the one, vig the other, but not so sure now....
There is a third possibility: Gamelon trying to make the hardest case we have up until now cause all the others are piss poor... and if so, he could well be an inno lying... never a godo thing...but it is one we cannot ignore...
I'll state though that of the two, I'm willing to
vote Galain
He reasons what seemingly turns out to be the truth in his third theory.
#1010 Guest_Liosan_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:21 PM
Telas;376239 said:
"I realised my error, let's just lynch the bastard". Perhaps a bit of a dodgy reason?
That's what I get for listening to good arguments.
#1011 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:23 PM
Feners and Liosans were really just sheep votes.
You will also realize that Liosan in his last post had said he wasnt gonna vote.
Then "seeing my post" voted.
My post was basically something everyone was discussing for about five minutes.
I saw no reason to wait(I obviously see now, more time=more info), and wanted to vote before someone was lured into a reveal or anything.
And fener: With something like that, you really shouldnt vote for someone you dont think is scum. If you dont agree, defend. It just looks like you were setting up so that after the lynch you had an excuse.
You will also realize that Liosan in his last post had said he wasnt gonna vote.
Then "seeing my post" voted.
My post was basically something everyone was discussing for about five minutes.
I saw no reason to wait(I obviously see now, more time=more info), and wanted to vote before someone was lured into a reveal or anything.
And fener: With something like that, you really shouldnt vote for someone you dont think is scum. If you dont agree, defend. It just looks like you were setting up so that after the lynch you had an excuse.
#1012 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:23 PM
Alright, I'm all caught up. Before Gamelon started typing again I was pretty sure he was the summier of the two, its just too risky to be the first one to post silenced and I could in fact see advantages for Gamelon-scum in faking.
The fact that Gamelon has revealed he was lying has made all the notes I wrote up over the last hour a little obsolete so I'm going to go back and skip read over that again. Just on memory Fener and Liosan come of as scummiest.
I'll also keep an eye on what's actually happening in thread too, if anyone wants to talk to me.
The fact that Gamelon has revealed he was lying has made all the notes I wrote up over the last hour a little obsolete so I'm going to go back and skip read over that again. Just on memory Fener and Liosan come of as scummiest.
I'll also keep an eye on what's actually happening in thread too, if anyone wants to talk to me.
#1013 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:24 PM
Liosan;376240 said:
That's what I get for listening to Kaschan, the stupid bastard.
Fixed.
Please dont vote just because you think my argument is good. Explain why you suspect him at least.
#1014 Guest_Gamelon_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:25 PM
Kaschan;376241 said:
I saw no reason to wait(I obviously see now, more time=more info), and wanted to vote before someone was lured into a reveal or anything.
God How many times did I post that...Also I never said anything about UB I posted pictures of Big Ben. Cause he is the one that we need to lynch.
Now I really have to go and do the dishes.
#1015 Guest_Liosan_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:25 PM
Kaschan;376241 said:
Feners and Liosans were really just sheep votes.
You will also realize that Liosan in his last post had said he wasnt gonna vote.
Then "seeing my post" voted.
You will also realize that Liosan in his last post had said he wasnt gonna vote.
Then "seeing my post" voted.
Edit: before that I also said I was leaning towards Galain, but that I suspected both of them. Kaschan, your post didn't decide what I voted, but when.
#1016 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:27 PM
Gamelon;376244 said:
God How many times did I post that...Also I never said anything about UB I posted pictures of Big Ben. Cause he is the one that we need to lynch.
Now I really have to go and do the dishes.
Now I really have to go and do the dishes.
Yeah, but I didnt see what you were getting at. I thought you should have been certain, which, if one of you was evil, you would be. Therefore I saw no reason. I can be narrow-minded at times.
Edit: Sorry Liosan. Still think you're a bit suspect though.
#1017 Guest_Telas_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:27 PM
Omtose, what do you think about those who first voted? What do you think of lynching one, and if they turn up inno, vigging another?
#1018 Guest_Kaschan_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:28 PM
I think this may be a good plan.
It also means that the vigs have no lynches when we go into the second BB section. This is good as one of them could well be BB at that point, and get an advantage.
It also means that the vigs have no lynches when we go into the second BB section. This is good as one of them could well be BB at that point, and get an advantage.
#1019 Guest_Telas_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:29 PM
Who didn't vote? Barghast. Serc and I voted Gamelon and Serc then changed to Galain. Any opinions on these people welcome.
#1020 Guest_Liosan_*
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:29 PM
Kaschan;376246 said:
Yeah, but I didnt see what you were getting at. I thought you should have been certain, which, if one of you was evil, you would be. Therefore I saw no reason. I can be narrow-minded at times.
Edit: Sorry Liosan. Still think you're a bit suspect though.
Edit: Sorry Liosan. Still think you're a bit suspect though.
And you were the one pushing everyone to vote as fast as possible. I find that suspicious.
