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Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)

#881 Guest_Fener_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:20 PM

Liosan;376052 said:

Good point Kaschan. Gamelon, why aren't you voting?


I SAID IT FIRST!!!! :Rodeo:

and then you ppl say I don't contribute.. good job stealing my thunder, Kas :admin:
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#882 Guest_Kaschan_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:21 PM

G2g, chucked off by parents(damn brother wants a shot). Got Judo at 7 so I wont be back till half eight, unless I go on the really slow comp, whereas maybe in quarter of an hour.

Hopefully hit an evil. Laterz,

Edit: I know fener. But I added my reasons for thinking it strange.

Also when you say it, its just Boaring, so no one pays attention unless someone like me re-phrases it. :Rodeo:
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#883 Guest_Liosan_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:23 PM

Fener;376053 said:

I SAID IT FIRST!!!! :Rodeo:

Darn, you beat me to it! :eek:
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#884 Guest_Fener_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:24 PM

the warpig is not happy. no, he's not.... :Rodeo:

anywhoo, I don't think there's much else I can say to convince the only other two people online to follow me and Kas into slicing open this tangle.... Is there?
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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:25 PM

Fener;376051 said:

seriously, Gamelon, I'm not sure we should wait for someone else (Omtose I think was the only one who hasn't posted since night started) for a giveaway like "oh, i'm a finder, I found X to be a BB"

this is the best (and only) lead we have today. People believe you over Galain. let's get this over with, or at least try to.


Youre not role speculating there are you :Rodeo:.

I agree however. We should not wait for anyone to have a chance to be lured into a reveal(which seems a probable target of the fake). I hope that isnt why you insist on waiting Gamelon.

Anyhow, bye.
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#886 Guest_Fener_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:28 PM

@ Kas
I'm trying to avoid it. it's hard though... it's... right.... there... and a perfect... conversation topic.... lol

but yeah, fluff aside, all should vote Galain. It's a vote for a safe, Benses-free future for all the restless souls
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#887 Guest_Liosan_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:32 PM

LOL Fener. :Rodeo:

I'm gonna be away for 1 hour or so. When I come back I'll vote.
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#888 Guest_Fener_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:35 PM

cool
As dissapointing as it is, Fener ust now leave the building

A single day off means there are errands to run

I'll be around sporadically for the next 3 hours, I hope. Then I'm off till my "usual" time (when none of yous are around)

hopefully those that show up later will see the reasons behind voting Galain. imho, it's pretty simple probability maths. He's suspicious, and if we hit him, we're likely to get scum.
That is all

*Exeunt*
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#889 Guest_Liosan_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:37 PM

Gah, now I'm gonna look like an ass. But I realized that the correct course is to not give people time to reveal, as Kaschan said. I'll be back in about an hour.

vote Galain
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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:45 PM

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:56 PM

What the fuck?! I just decided to check the topic while the oven's heating my pizza before I go out and then there is this....

Quick recap of thoughts...
1) Galain used his weak ass case, which he solidly advertised as such, to broadcast his next move to UB and is BB.

This has the following requirements/side-effects:
a) There would be a hint to UB then somewhere in the case itself, why take the risk otherwise...
:Rodeo: Galain was out really fast with his message after the night resolution, before all others had been on, so he was taking a really big risk and trusting massively in his symp having understood him correctly...

Basically, if he is BB, he needed to instruct UB to act dead for today. Is there a clue in these messages if you read it back with a symp's or killers mind?
If so, UB is now cursing and ranting on the spoilerboard..... or should be :admin:

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With the CF of yellow playing ruse it takes the meta out of what I'm using for my case. We have been told by PS that Ruse was Yellow. Now most of you have played a few games with yellow and know he is a good player. He would not just reveal that code like that. The games I have played with yellow he has played his hand very close to his chest. So why would he do that? I feel that yellow was UB and wanted to get that code reveal to BB, and the only way he could, was to do it in thread. So yellow throws that code reveal out and tries to play dumb. It worked for me right up to the point where the CF reveals who ruse. Now the CF comes up inno. Oh well maybe he just "screwed up" I don't buy it. I think he was UB. And with UB gone why do we have some one silenced?


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no it's not. It's weak, weak as hell but very plausable. If BB knows that UB is dead he can fake being silenced at least once. When we next lynch someone and the next day no one comes up silenced he can play at, that persn must have been UB.


2) On the other hand, we have Gamelon.
Poor, sick, 'please lynch me dead' Gamelon. The sick man has risen since and apparently never felt better because he has a shitload of pictures at the ready to throw at us... although it might be the outrage, of course...

I'm torn between the two...
On the one hand, Galain's Gamble (if he is scum) is pulled of with gusto and could be with all the confidence of a killer who knows he has a second life if he is screwed....
On the other hand, Gamelon could be sowing chaos by faking being silenced and counterrevealing, also knowing that he has a second life... I'd nearly say: lynch the one, vig the other, but not so sure now....

There is a third possibility: Gamelon trying to make the hardest case we have up until now cause all the others are piss poor... and if so, he could well be an inno lying... never a godo thing...but it is one we cannot ignore...

I'll state though that of the two, I'm willing to

vote Galain

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#892 Guest_Path-Shaper_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:58 PM

This is day 3. 24 hours and a half left in the day.

11 players alive, 6 to lynch or to go to night.

4 votes Galain (Kaschan, Fener, Liosan, D'riss)

7 have not voted (Barghast, Galain, Gamelon, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas)
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#893 Guest_D'riss_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 06:12 PM

Have been thinking about it a bit more...

Galain earlier mentioned something like... "I have my suspicion, but you will see it all later" - early day 2... sign to partner: I'm coming up with something... Pay attention to it when I do, hidden message will be in there?

Galain in his case voted for Telas - could that be the signal 'if UB is dead, the killer could fake it at least once? Meaning... I vote for you, don't act today, play as if you're removed from the game'?
After all, there was a huge frikking train on Gamelon by that point, so this whole vote for Telas antic was ridiculous...

There has been a discussion somewhere that UB silencing himself on day 2 allowed him to fan the flames and suspicion... and Telas made cases on 5 people...while being UB'ed on day 2... (although his explanation for it was reasonable)... and he did mention Galain in there as partner of Serc....

Just food for thought, this all...
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#894 Guest_Fener_*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 06:39 PM

hmm
well, once again, if either of them's inno faking it, I want them dead. Now, and in the next infinity games to come. that kind of thing's just bs and I dislike how it's getting more common here--"I have a REALLY, really strong feeling that X is scum. I know, I'll fake reveal and get him killed and if I'm wrong I'll just say "oops"."
Seriously, that's almost as bad as being sheep.

Now, my anti-Khellendros (if you haven't guessed) rant aside, I'm pretty sure the whole hysteria around "faking it" could be a HUGE signal, if Galain was BB. I'm still of a mind that he's more likely UB, though. in either case, one thing I am sure of, is that Galain's most likely scum fishing for role info, baiting our roled innos to reveal. if he's UB, he's giving himself up in hopes that given more info on roles the BB can play on with better idea of how to fuck us up with a soul-shift.
If it's BB, well, he has little to lose (since he gets to soul-shift), and tons to gain, in case someone DOES pipe up with a reveal.
in either case, it's a gamble. Balls of steel and all, but I'm willing to call the bluff.
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Posted 28 August 2008 - 06:44 PM

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 06:45 PM

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Uncle Ben (symp) – You don’t really agree with Big’s mentality of killing your fellow man, even if they are Mezla. However, your mastery of Meanas allows you to silence one player per day. You do this by sending the mods the name of the player you want to silence.

Once silenced, a player can no longer speak, but he can still post and contribute. The posts can only contain: votes, quotes, emoticons, player's alts and images (uploaded or linked from the web).

This power can be used every day and as many times as wanted, although it can’t target the same player two days in a row. It can be used on himself, or on Big Ben if wanted. The silencing is in effect from the end-of-night to the end-of-day post from the mod. This silencing apply to PMs between pairs, so please don’t cheat

Note: upon investigation/CF, Uncle Ben will come up as “Innocent”

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 06:56 PM

???
no f%^$ing way
if he can silence more than one player a day, we'd all be silenced by now, talkning in pictures.
I don't buy it.

oh Almighty mods, please, pretty please with banana split chocolate sundae on top, say it ain't so!!!
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Posted 28 August 2008 - 06:59 PM

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 07:00 PM

Uncle Ben (symp) – You don’t really agree with Big’s mentality of killing your fellow man, even if they are Mezla. However, your mastery of Meanas allows you to silence one player per day. You do this by sending the mods the name of the player you want to silence.

Once silenced, a player can no longer speak, but he can still post and contribute. The posts can only contain: votes, quotes, emoticons, player's alts and images (uploaded or linked from the web).

This power can be used every day and as many times as wanted, although it can’t target the same player two days in a row. It can be used on himself, or on Big Ben if wanted. The silencing is in effect from the end-of-night to the end-of-day post from the mod. This silencing apply to PMs between pairs, so please don’t cheat

Note: upon investigation/CF, Uncle Ben will come up as “Innocent”
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