Malazan Empire: Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread) - Malazan Empire

Mockra;374960 said:

the reason he stated that he thought you were scummy was that he only found you indicating omtose with a code and nothing in return.

fine, done, bought the t-shirt, burned the flag went home a zombie.

Ruse;374654 said:

He didnt say this then?

also this doesnt sound like a healer to me, "ill accept what happenes to me" sounds like an unrolled player if inno to be honest

Healer putting themselves in the line of fire like that is rather silly, so I doubt he would be.

Risking a roled pair for the chance of catching them is also rather silly, as the amount of roles in this game is larger than the amount of evils, and it isnt unreasonable to asumme at least one and maybe more is paired.

I also doubt he was UB, as I reckon UB wouldnt do that. Its just far too risky, and doesnt seem likely to work. So im inclined to believe he just made a mistake/played silly.

So, Kaschan and anyone else around, any thoughts on my Galain case?

I reckon that the teasing thing probably isnt gloating and just amounts to teasing. After all, you know some of the people on this board...

The most interesting point I saw was the one you made about content.
He does seem, basically, to post lots in the way of posts, and little in the way of actual content.
He also seems to be trying rather hard to make sure he doesnt annoy anyone or make them suspicious of him, with his constant joking, which would allow him, if he did something suspicious, to call it "just a joke" later on.

After sending back Ruse's soul to Hood's gates, you settle down and decide to camp for the night.

Confusion can be read on everyone's faces, and despite everyone's best efforts, you all fall soundly asleep.

Not everyone is sleeping, it seems, as you awake to a blood-chilling scream

Tennes (drinksinbars) has been killed. He was innocent



It is day 2, 36 hours left in the day

13 players alive, 7 to lynch and to go to night

13 have not voted (Barghast, D'riss, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hoods Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Shadow, Telas)

Well, there goes a voice of reason, even if reason was spiced with cusswords.

That sucks.

Tennes;374896 said:

Tennes;374908 said:

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Tennes;374876 said:

Here are some Tennes quotes, in order to try and find a reason why he would be killed. Unless people think it was random?

Tennes main call was for people to give Ruse some time to reply, and explain. He was being reasonable, which in itself could be cause for a nk, eliminating a player he thinks things through.

His main conflict was his aruments with serc, many of which are quoted above. I doubt that serc(if he was the killer) would be stupid enough to kill the person that he had been fighting with, as it seems rather obvious,but you never know, I could very easily be wrong.

Also, we have to consider the possibility of someone inactive being evil. The problem is, we cant lynch all of them in the hope of hitting an evil. There are so many of them, so its entirely possible at least one, and wouldnt even be that surprising. What do people think?

D said:

Well it's hard to be sure about anything, since it (obviously) can be someone that hasn't been present in the discussions at all. Or the person has been covering himself by actually taking part in the discussion.

We need to look for scummy play imho. Guessing on some random principle won't do it.
Also, we have revealed roled players that might provide us with an answer.

Oh come on now, A voice of reason? The only reasonable thing he said, was to give ruse a chance to defend himself, which we did.

He advocated for a healer to reveal, if Ruse was a healer. I still say that is bad.

As to Kaschan, I would like to think I would not be stupid enough to kill someone who was somewhat calling me out, but I don't have any kill powers to test that, so we will never know ;P

My point is that 2 games ago that is pretty much exactly what the killer did. Eliminated the person calling him out, so im not ruling it out.

Healers perhaps should reveal to save from a lynch if no other way is possible. If nothing else it makes the killers waste a nk. The only thing is, with all that Ruse had just done, would anyone have believed it wasnt just a fake reveal to save himself?

Personally I reckon he wasnt a healer. I dont reckon any healer would really do anything like that. Healers are too valuable to risk themselves like that, not on something so uncertain as that. Whereas a Roleless Inno may think that risking himself was worth the chance of catching a the killers.

Edit: The other thing is that it makes you seem more innocent. "I cant be the killer because if I was I would never be stupid enough to kill someone calling me out", a rather nice wifom argument making you seem more innocent. So you could, potentially, be a very clever killer, as it wouldnt make you seem suspicious, as no one would think you stupid enough to kill someone calling you out. Just pointing out that you shouldn't be assumed inno in any way, just because of that.

serc;375003 said:

"tennes" said:

l2r.

Who's that aimed at?

Edit: Dinner, back in about an hour and a half, when im allowed back on.

Serc, for putting words in Tennes' mouth.

I was not putting words in Tennes' mouth, and we both know it D'riss.

Why are you lying?
Where were you when we were having that argument about when we should vote Ruse for lynch and if a healer should reveal or not.

Ok, I'm back, but may be on and off, due to bad weather. I think I am gonna take a look at non-contributers today, not low posters, but those of you who appear to be helpful, while just adding fuel to the fire. If Omtose ever comes back, I will be more than happy to continue our pissing contest, but for now, I am going to try and do something constructive with my time. By the way, I think DiBs ding was probably meta based, but thats just my look on why Tennes. I think I will take a look at Barghast first. Back in a litle while.

The quote I gave specifies that he didn't ask for a reveal. He argued however that a reveal would have made no real difference since Ruse would still be dead after the night. I'll give you that, but also want to point out that it isn't calling for a reveal exactly.

I did some calculating: we would then be one inno ahead and instead we might have given the killer a confirmed roled inno - a role which only becomes useful when far more is known about the playing field. And who's to say that Tennes himself wasn't roled? We could be 2 roled inno's down for all we know.

On to lying. Since it is other people's words that I quote, how the fuck can I lie with them, Serc? At most, I can shed a coloured light on your words and his - and I feel personally that you did exactly that when you stated that he was asking for a healer reveal. Don't throw your toys out of the pram when you're guilty of it yourself.

Where I was: I came out of one meeting when the debate was starting, and had some time to read it and make post nr 368, went out of my office and had a conversation with my boss on a client I'm trying to net. Then, I went to the station, took a train, did some shopping. When I commented on the NK (post nr 427), I was home for exactly 10 minutes. Welcome to the life of D'riss.

Lastly, I stated when I placed my vote that I agreed with the reasons given then. I never came back on those reasons, nor would I have preferred no lynch over a Ruse lynch, exactly as I said before.

It's clear you wish to play aggressively. That's cool. Be aware that you also come under close scrutiny from us, your own team, that way, and better get your facts straight, or your aggression becomes a perfect tool for the scum.

edit, because you responded, with a lengthly post!

You can scrutinize me as much as you want, but when you start twisting my words, it irkes me.

You lied because we have come to the point (Tennes and I) that what he said was not clear, and I disagreed with what I thought he said.
This is taking to long for an edit, I am looking up posts, will probably be another post after this.