Malazan Empire: Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread) - Malazan Empire

On the other hand, I won't be on for another twelve hours at least so will vote now. Because Serc did hesitate on who to vote for when he could have hammered or almost hammered Galain, and because Kaschan has already voted for him, I will

Vote D'riss


That should be two votes on D'riss now.

This is day 3. 12 hours left in the day.

11 players alive, 6 to lynch or to go to night.

1 vote Galain ( Serc)
1 vote for Liosan (Gamelon)
1 votes for Fener (D'riss)
2 votes D'riss (Kaschan, Telas)

6 have not voted (Barghast, Fener, Galain, Mockra, Omtose, Liosan)

Well lets wait and see what everyone else says as well.

I'm inclined to think Galain is the least suspicious of the remaining four. D'riss being next on the list on least suspicion, due to his reluctance to lynch Gamelon on Day 2. We had a train going on Gamelon and D'riss refused to jump on it arguing against it. Since Gamelon was innocent and it looked a likely lynch, why would an evil stick his neck out like that? So I'm not sure about D'riss.

This leaves Serc and Liosan. As I said before, both voted for Galain quite eagerly.

Personally I think Liosan = BB, Serc = UB just from the way they've played it. Liosan keeping his head down, Serc being the vocal one. Serc pointing out Fener and I were linked etc.

I don't think it matters too much, but I'd prefer we lynched Serc or Liosan and vigged the other. Fener and I will guard D'riss.

Thoughts on that Telas? I'd like to hear from Omtose, Mockra and Gamelon before deciding and see if they have any insight.

Well... just when I thought it could not get worse for us inno's, we get another reveal... and the well-thought out 30 pm discussion by our lovely couple Telas + Kaschan is ready for the compost heap...

Here's a situation recap:

we have 7 CIs, 6 of which lovers:
Barghast + Fener = guards
Omtose + Mockra = vigs, with 1 kill left
Telas + Kaschan = role unknown
Gamelon

There are 4 inno's dead:
Ruse + Tennes (CI due to UB expiration date)
Shadow (targeted by BB)
HP (may be UB but then Galain is BB)

There are 4 unknown quantities amongst whom hide both UB and BB, but we care about BB only right now:
Serc
Liosan
Galain
D'riss

The way I see it, you want to hit scum no matter the cost, in a small, controlled environment. That means you have to plow through us rather ruthlessly until you strike dirt and it will have the added advantage of also bringing down UB/knowing UB's identity... if you don't get BB on the first night...

Tonight, we should lynch one of the four unknowns and vig another - which also means that IF we lynch/vig BB, no vigs are left, making for a cleaner game and at the least won't give BB a chance to pursuade his partner to vig another inno in the 'second round' of Mafia.

If we have a finder, he should investigate one;
guards should guard another and best announce who on beforehand so we don't get a double cross with any possible finder, although you may not want to, seeing how the killer could stay his blade;

Now, I'm a roleless inno. As such, it is most certainly not in our best interest to keep me alive and then waste our guard on me... but to prove I'm inno, I need to die. So I strongly suggest I'm either lynched or vigged. Which is ok with most of you, anyway Since Galain refused to hammer Gamelon, we might as well keep him around for tomorrow and see if he's trustworthy... so choice for lynch/vig and guard is between Liosan and Serc...

EDIT:
also, if I were BB, I wouldn't say this, as I couldn't squeeze a NK in ig I'm lynched (50% chance with guards if I remain alive), or have a chance at putting in a night action when I'm UB.
Of course, I could then say this to try to plead inno and get that 50% chance...

Oh, also:

remove vote
vote Serc

as he made quite the change in his speech and playstyle somewhere on day 2, going from aggressive to nice... so wouldn't mind if he accompanies me to spoiler heaven...

wow....what i night.

I think serc and liosan should be the first to die.

Will go ahead and vote Serc

we can vig liosan tonight...

this mass reaveal is totally fucked up, we cant even trust our own partenrs once we catch BB...sigh.

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vote driss

This is day 3. 9 and a half hours left in the day.

11 players alive, 6 to lynch or to go to night.

1 vote Galain ( Serc)
1 vote for Liosan (Gamelon)
3 votes D'riss (Kaschan, Telas, Galain)
2 votes Serc (D'riss, Mockra)

4 have not voted (Barghast, Fener, Omtose, Liosan)

Mockra;376436 said:

My thoughts exactly. BB is laughing somewhere. Out loud.

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I'll be back in about 6 hours or so and vote then. I'd prefer lynching either Serc or Liosan, and Guardnig D'riss. The CF will tell us if we've hit BB or not. Although if D'riss is roleless innocent, then surely you'd want to be Guarded?
If we haven't we can lynch D'riss and guard Galain the next night.

Of course from there we are all suspects again, we'll just have to hope we have Finder and Guard still around.

Barghast;376443 said:

No, I would want to be guarded if I'm a role(d/less) inno and consider staying alive more important than BB possibly getting a NK in on a roled player... which I happen to find a trade-off that harms us innos more than it does good.

I agree...we lynch liosan or serc, guard driss and do a find on galain.

or something along those lines

oh and we vig whover is left....

interested to hear what these guys have to say for themselves

What do people think?

lynch liosan or Serc?

spose it doesnt matter

Well, I gave mine, confusing as they may be

Mockra;376452 said:

Actually, it does. A lynch on BB would
a) guarantee UB's still in the game;
make you guys enter phase 2 with a vig remaining.

A lynch on anyone but BB would invite a vig-kill at night and a NK by BB unless he is blocked. So you have to go for the person you consider BB.

Right, after reading through the thread and and bit of MSN conversation with Mockra I believe the best course of action is:

Vote Serc
Vig Liosan
Guard D'riss.

In the end the order isn't overly important - but that's the order I like best.