[Jump Around]

I concur, my fleet from por should be in mid

[Jump Around]

And why is Istanbul still brood's? I don't understand

[Tapper]

Sir Thursday, on Nov 5 2008, 01:07 AM, said:

I'm afraid you've made a mistake - You put in Britain F Lap - Nor instead of F Lap - Nwg. That would bounce Russia's F Brn - Nwg...

You've also not put in Spain's F Por - Mid...

Can you correct that?

Cheers,

Sir Thursday

Oki, will redo all that when home (also, for DiBs . Don't know why I messed up, I was sober and took my time... Gah, apologies to all of you. Will also look at the Istanbul thing, but did that while composing orders and I think it is because there's 1 support for him to hold, support from Bulgaria is cut. Anything I missed there?

Is an extension of the deadline necessary, by the way?

[drinksinbars]

yeah i thiink istanbul should have been ours. he wasnt holding, so technically it was 2 on 1, that fleet of tts should have taken it.

it was 1 support against 2.

[drinksinbars]

dont worry mate it was very complicated turn let us know about builds and disbands etc once everything is cleared up.

[Tapper]

drinksinbars, on Nov 5 2008, 11:04 AM, said:

yeah i thiink istanbul should have been ours. he wasnt holding, so technically it was 2 on 1, that fleet of tts should have taken it.

it was 1 support against 2.

Still don't see that, to be honest... support for the attack comes from Bulgaria (TTs army) and from the wbs (Dibses fleet).
Support for the defense comes from A izmir. So, 3 against 2. However, support is cut:

Support from TTs army in Bulgaria is cut by the attack by Brood's army from Macedon, so that makes it 2 vs 2, each with 1 unit in support (offense: fleet wbs, defense: army izmir).

The support move carried out by fleet Istanbul (support attack Macedon - Bulgaria) is cut by your attack, but this does not matter for resolution: a convoying or supporting unit has no different weight from a holding unit, it all counts as a stationary unit with a weight of 1.

Unless I failed to complete all orders in this territory as well, I think Brood holding Istanbul is a correct resolution.
Will redo all orders just to be sure, though.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 05 November 2008 - 10:39 AM

[Jump Around]

Thanks for the comments and the clarifications.

edit: I see it now

I thought an army had to "hold" to count as defending itself.

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 05 November 2008 - 11:00 AM

[Tapper]

Jump Around, on Nov 5 2008, 11:56 AM, said:

Thanks for the comments and keep me posted.

I'm not arguing there's a mistake with Istanbul, just that based on my current understanding of the rules it should be TT's.

I'll get the rulebook this afternoon to make sure what i said above isn't complete drivel. Could very well be that I messed up, and it is a complicated situation... but you'll know more when I get home, as I will redo everything from the start then

[Tapper]

Crosspost But yeah, no order or any other order does not change the value of the unit, afaik.

[drinksinbars]

so did i, regardless of cut support it is ank - ist supported by wbs. whereas ist is supported by izm but isnt defending itself so technically it isnt holding it is attackign with another unit. let me test this and get back to you.

[Tapper]

okidoki

[Jump Around]

No, wait, dibs is confusing me now. I knew about the holding thing, otherwise it makes no sense.

Why the hell was I confused? I don't see it anymore.

Sorry

[drinksinbars]

Tapper, on Nov 5 2008, 11:02 AM, said:

Crosspost But yeah, no order or any other order does not change the value of the unit, afaik.

that doesnt sound right, yeah if you put no order its auto hold, but doing something else implies you arent holding imo

[drinksinbars]

according to ih

"A support counts as a defensive action if it's cut, it's only when your attacking that it doesn't count as a defensive action."

so brood holds

[Jump Around]

Adjudicator, on Nov 5 2008, 12:22 AM, said:

Russia
a fra - run (misspelling accepted as intention is clear)

Hahaha, did you just called Dibs' intentions "clear"?

[drinksinbars]

i cant read the map - its too smalll!!! cheeky git... thats what remains of my sould cryign int he corner!!! you evil *%&*

[Jump Around]

Take it as a compliment, because it is - you're the one whose intentions have been the hardest for me to predict all game

[Tapper]

Jump Around, on Nov 5 2008, 12:15 PM, said:

Adjudicator, on Nov 5 2008, 12:22 AM, said:

Russia
a fra - run (misspelling accepted as intention is clear)

Hahaha, did you just called Dibs' intentions "clear"?

There's no "run" next to"fra" but there is a "ruh".
Although A France Runs would have been a fun interpretation

I spent all morning in the games forum, and has over 10 pages to type in 1 minute. Stupid, stupid bastard that I am... shouldnt let myself be distracted by mafia and diplomacy.

Oh well, me gonna love miss overtime looooong time today .

[drinksinbars]

Jump Around, on Nov 5 2008, 11:20 AM, said:

Take it as a compliment, because it is - you're the one whose intentions have been the hardest for me to predict all game

was joking sir

[caladanbrood]

How have people suddenly forgotten the rules? Supports are cut by any attack on that unit, but a support still counts as a hold. Silly bastards