[Optimus Prime]

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- Abyss, notes whatever we can say about Rake, he went out with a bang... well, technically a big frikkin sword to the head and THEN a bang...

SE couldn't have done it any other way though, could he? Didn't he mention in one of his earliest interviews that he was surprised how much Rake was adored?

For a bit there, I saw Rake and Dassem killing each other and both going into Dragnipur.....Abyss....Rake was teh man, no? Better swordsman I think?

SE, given us what we want, what we NEED.

[Abyss]

Considering the point was made (pun intended) that the sword was already insanely heavy and then MORESO when Hood dropped in, and Rake was still fighting Dassem and basically set up the blow that killed him to ensure Dragnipur took him, yeah, i'd say Rake wins that particular Ho'd Win in spades.

- Abyss, does note that's just because Wolverine was busy elsewhere...

[Optimus Prime]

Abyss;354550 said:

Considering the point was made (pun intended) that the sword was already insanely heavy and then MORESO when Hood dropped in, and Rake was still fighting Dassem and basically set up the blow that killed him to ensure Dragnipur took him, yeah, i'd say Rake wins that particular Ho'd Win in spades.

- Abyss, does note that's just because Wolverine was busy elsewhere...

hahaha.

So I guess the question is now....is Clip still the Herald of Dark? What about Nimander? Now the Knight? Or does Rake still occupy the spot, though dead and back in his home warren?

Korlat=Magus?

Oh...and does nobody care that Orfantal is dead?!?! None of the Tiste?

[Aptorian]

Well first off... Andii don't morn their dead. They're just gone... that's that.

Second of all. Allthough time has gone by since the Kallor vs Orfantal fight I suggest they either don't know Orfantal died or that... dun dun duuuunn... Orfantal didn't die. Draconean Soletaken seem to be able to handle a hell of a lot of damage. What's a little chop to the throat to them?

[HoosierDaddy]

Optimus Prime;354552 said:

hahaha.

So I guess the question is now....is Clip still the Herald of Dark? What about Nimander? Now the Knight? Or does Rake still occupy the spot, though dead and back in his home warren?

Korlat=Magus?

Oh...and does nobody care that Orfantal is dead?!?! None of the Tiste?

1. I want to see Clip get offed.
2. I don't think being the leader of Rake's Andii denotes Knighthood. Ruin is more likely for Knight in my opinion.
3. I think Rake will have no choice but to become a God now. He can't willfully deny it anymore, so those who worship him, if everything we've read on the creation of Gods is correct, should make him into a God. Father Dark? Lord of Dark?
4. Orfantal: Have we ever seen Rake's Tiste (Nimander's seem to care) mourn the loss of any other Tiste in Wu besides Rake? They seem to mourn the loss of mortals, but are generally blaze about other Tiste. Korlat would be the one most likely to mourn and she doesn't seem to be doing so. I would note that Andii tend to be pretty damn introverted so we probably couldn't tell with most of them anyways.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Aptorian;354584 said:

Well first off... Andii don't morn their dead. They're just gone... that's that.

Second of all. Allthough time has gone by since the Kallor vs Orfantal fight I suggest they either don't know Orfantal died or that... dun dun duuuunn... Orfantal didn't die. Draconean Soletaken seem to be able to handle a hell of a lot of damage. What's a little chop to the throat to them?

Well it was serious enough to make him drop Kallor, land, semble into human form and stumble around dying of blood loss from a serious neck wound, leading Kallor to make a joke about how many Tiste Andii he kills.

But you're right, maybe he's fine.

[Imperial Historian]

SE confirmed it, orfantals dead. He seemed surprised it was even a question.

[Abyss]

I was almnost dissappointed by that confrontation, but i fgured of anyone, the draconic Andii were most likely to feel Rake's death and Orfantal's mind just wasn't on the fight. He thought he had Kallor - he clearly didn't.

And the point is clearly made that Kallor had a bunch of big dragon claw sized holes in him from that.

- Abyss, can live with Orfantal's death proving just how badass Kallor actually is...

[Optimus Prime]

HoosierDaddy;354588 said:

1. I want to see Clip get offed.
2. I don't think being the leader of Rake's Andii denotes Knighthood. Ruin is more likely for Knight in my opinion.
3. I think Rake will have no choice but to become a God now. He can't willfully deny it anymore, so those who worship him, if everything we've read on the creation of Gods is correct, should make him into a God. Father Dark? Lord of Dark?
4. Orfantal: Have we ever seen Rake's Tiste (Nimander's seem to care) mourn the loss of any other Tiste in Wu besides Rake? They seem to mourn the loss of mortals, but are generally blaze about other Tiste. Korlat would be the one most likely to mourn and she doesn't seem to be doing so. I would note that Andii tend to be pretty damn introverted so we probably couldn't tell with most of them anyways.

If Rake becomes a God, he'll be a God to the Andii alone I would gather...Son Dark or something like that.

Ruin as Knight would make sense...but this is Silchas fucking Ruin we're talking about...definitely the odd ball of the Andii.

Orfantal toast, I would've thought Korlat would mourn since she had been "awakened" by the death of WJ.

I wonder what Clip is thinking right now...besides the whole "wahh..I never got to confront Daddy Rake...wahhh"

[Illuyankas]

Korlat probably doesn't know yet. Also, the idea of Ruin being the black sheep of the family made me giggle.

And again, blocking a sword swing with too little force, letting your opponent drive your blade into you, is NOT HARD. Rake's still better then Swordar the Swordarian, but that shouldn't be a factor in it.

[flea]

With Rake's death I sense a bit of Obi Wan getting offed by Darth, and Gandalf falling to the Balrog.

Have we seen the last of Rake?

[Vis17]

Did he truly die though? The impression I got was that his was a true travel into Dark, to confront his Mother and almost forcibly turn her back to the Andii. I wouldn't be suprised if, as suggested, godhood beckons...

[BeLeG]

I don't want to see Rake becoming a good of his emo-race.He was badass enough to try and make them something more than crying ghosts.Maybe he had enough of their whining so he decided to bring MD back.Now she can deal with them and he can relax

just joking of course,but I think Rake was cooler as someone who denied godhood

[Vis17]

Something occurs. Rake = Andii Jesus?

?

[Optimus Prime]

flea;355038 said:

With Rake's death I sense a bit of Obi Wan getting offed by Darth, and Gandalf falling to the Balrog.

Have we seen the last of Rake?

As a player in the series, yes. He may still be "around"....but he's not going to come back, blast out of thewarren of Dark, and smoke some CG baddies or anything like that.

[Tremolo]

He might be reincarnated as a mule of darkness?

[Optimus Prime]

I wonder what MD is gonna do now. She's been chased by Chaos for all these years and now she can finally start running....

I want to see her unleashed.

[Tremolo]

Maybe she will concentrate on helping the surviving Tiste Andii?

[dolfanuk]

i think he may be back, i mean godhood seems inevitable at this point.

and lets be honest i don't care what anyone even SE says, the whole WJ and hounds of light make that a moot point.

[Arkmam]

I hope he stay's down, would cheapen the awesome sacrifice if he came back.