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#201 User is offline   Raymond Luxury Yacht 

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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:15 AM

I don't know that he's saying F-you to the team, they don't want him, he still wants to play, so he wants to play somewhere that wants him.

But they tried to let him come back already, and he couldn't make up his mind.

But it's not like he's the first legendary player to go play for another team. Just because he's done great things for them, does that mean he isn't allowed to ever go elsewhere?

But he's drawing unnecessary attention to the team, negative attention.

But think about the Lions and Barry Sanders-is it right that they wouldn't let him play somewhere else, and therefore deprived fans of the game of one of the greatest RBs ever?

But think about poor Aaron Rodgers! It's not right to him, what's going on.

But if he's not good enough for them to bring back, why should they be concerned with him playing somewhere else?

What about his legacy? This could tarnish it forever.

But what about the fans? This could turn packers fans against the team forever?


AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! My brain is melting!

But I will never refer to him as a douche bag. I would not say such things if I were you!
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:26 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;349967 said:

I don't know that he's saying F-you to the team, they don't want him, he still wants to play, so he wants to play somewhere that wants him.

But they tried to let him come back already, and he couldn't make up his mind.

But it's not like he's the first legendary player to go play for another team. Just because he's done great things for them, does that mean he isn't allowed to ever go elsewhere?

But he's drawing unnecessary attention to the team, negative attention.

But think about the Lions and Barry Sanders-is it right that they wouldn't let him play somewhere else, and therefore deprived fans of the game of one of the greatest RBs ever?

But think about poor Aaron Rodgers! It's not right to him, what's going on.

But if he's not good enough for them to bring back, why should they be concerned with him playing somewhere else?

What about his legacy? This could tarnish it forever.

But what about the fans? This could turn packers fans against the team forever?


AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! My brain is melting!

But I will never refer to him as a douche bag. I would not say such things if I were you!


Nearly Pustian RLY. He's saying this one year means more to him than his relationship to the Pack. My opinion.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:28 AM

Michael Jordan was absent for awhile before he came back; he didn't do it just as the Bulls were grooming a replacement point guard. In fact, when he came back he was under no obligation to any team other than the one he played for.

Favre's going down the Reggie White path...and we all know that don't end pretty.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:29 AM

Here's a good article, my favorite part is when they say Green Bay has Stockholm Syndrome for Brett Favre.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:35 AM

Haha... Green Bay loves their captor/villain. Just let the new kid throw the ball, for Christ's sake.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:36 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;349971 said:

Here's a good article, my favorite part is when they say Green Bay has Stockholm Syndrome for Brett Favre.


I like that article. I'd be surprised if 1 in 2 fans aren't angry with Brett right now. Whether that anger is enough to sustain a season long bench-sitting or a trade to another team is another question. But, there is no question that Favre is becoming mockable, and that's not good for a guy who wants to be remembered as a gunslinger devil-may-care quarterback.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:38 AM

My dad just told me they have told him he's welcome to come back, but it will be as Aaron Rodgers backup. Don't know if favre can handle that, and don't know why he would want to. Aaron Rodgers is fragile though, so Favre would be starting in about 2 games. PLus Rodgers would mysteriously get his leg broke by masked fat men in the parking lot one night.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:41 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;349976 said:

My dad just told me they have told him he's welcome to come back, but it will be as Aaron Rodgers backup. Don't know if favre can handle that, and don't know why he would want to. Aaron Rodgers is fragile though, so Favre would be starting in about 2 games. PLus Rodgers would mysteriously get his leg broke by masked fat men in the parking lot one night.


I wonder if he recognizes that he's in the act of tearing apart a franchise? How many years would it take Packers fans to either forgive Favre if he left or the team for trading him? He won't back up. Either start him or just keep him on the books and refuse to trade him. Trading him would set a terrible precedent.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:42 AM

That's pretty much a pacifying gesture, RLY. Of course they'll let him come back and sit on the bench; what do they have to lose?
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:42 AM

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That's pretty much a pacifying gesture, RLY. Of course they'll let him come back and sit on the bench; what do they have to lose?


About 12 million dollars.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:44 AM

Other than money...
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:45 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;349980 said:

About 12 million dollars.


What do you want him to do RLY, as a Pack fan you can be our bell-weather. He's obviously not going to stay retired so:

1. Stay with team and start
2. Stay with team and sit
3. Get traded
4. Get released, sign with Vikings

In order from best to worst case scenarion.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:48 AM

If it was my team, I'd trade him out of conference and watch him flail away, throwing as many INTs as TDs...
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 02:01 AM

Slumgullion Spitteler;349983 said:

If it was my team, I'd trade him out of conference and watch him flail away, throwing as many INTs as TDs...


As many? I think that's optomistic. From all reports last season's production came from pouring over the offensive playbook, a playbook he's had for a while. New playbook = 15 td's 25 int's.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 03:27 AM

Scenarios from best to worst
1. Never retired in the first place
2. Unretired when he had the chance in march
3. Stayed retired once he unofficially found out the Packers didn't want him back
4. Stays retired now that he has officially asked to come back and they said no
5. Packers let him come back and start
6. Packers release him in a friendly manner-He plays for someone not in the NFC North
7. Packers refuse to release, he stays retired
8. Packers refuse to release, trade him to whoever they want
9. Rides the bench for the Packers
10. Plays for the Vikings

Some of the better options are obviously impossible at this point. I reserve the right to change my mind about this order with no advanced notice.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 03:32 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;349997 said:

Scenarios from best to worst
1. Never retired in the first place
2. Unretired when he had the chance in march
3. Stayed retired once he unofficially found out the Packers didn't want him back
4. Stays retired now that he has officially asked to come back and they said no
5. Packers let him come back and start
6. Packers release him in a friendly manner-He plays for someone not in the NFC North
7. Packers refuse to release, he stays retired
8. Packers refuse to release, trade him to whoever they want
9. Rides the bench for the Packers
10. Plays for the Vikings

Some of the better options are obviously impossible at this point. I reserve the right to change my mind about this order with no advanced notice.


As does any fan. Riding the bench is that low huh? Due to the fact they'd be paying him so much for no output?
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 03:33 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;349997 said:

Scenarios from best to worst
1. Never retired in the first place
2. Unretired when he had the chance in march
3. Stayed retired once he unofficially found out the Packers didn't want him back
4. Stays retired now that he has officially asked to come back and they said no
5. Packers let him come back and start
6. Packers release him in a friendly manner-He plays for someone not in the NFC North
7. Packers refuse to release, he stays retired
8. Packers refuse to release, trade him to whoever they want
9. Rides the bench for the Packers
10. Plays for the Vikings

Some of the better options are obviously impossible at this point. I reserve the right to change my mind about this order with no advanced notice.


As does any fan. Riding the bench is that low huh? Due to the fact they'd be paying him so much for no output?
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 03:39 AM

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As does any fan. Riding the bench is that low huh? Due to the fact they'd be paying him so much for no output?


For a couple of reasons. That's a lot of cap money gone for a backup. Also it's Brett Freaking Favre, a damned legend, and it would kill me to see him on the bench when not injured. Also, we all know he's a better QB than ROdgers, which would make it doubly hard. Also, imagine his start streak coming to an end because he got benched. And, it would be ridiculous if all this fuss happened just so he could ride the pine.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 03:48 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;350009 said:

For a couple of reasons. That's a lot of cap money gone for a backup. Also it's Brett Freaking Favre, a damned legend, and it would kill me to see him on the bench when not injured. Also, we all know he's a better QB than ROdgers, which would make it doubly hard. Also, imagine his start streak coming to an end because he got benched. And, it would be ridiculous if all this fuss happened just so he could ride the pine.


Fair enough. I can understand those reasons. But still, you'd rather he play for another team than ride your pine? The only thing I can try to do to emphathize with your plight here is to imagine it's Peyton. If this was Peyton, I'd want him riding the pine playing offensive coordinator. But Favre isn't that tactical quarterback that Peyton is, so. I don't think I'd ever want Manning on any team other than the Colts. But, he's been great about this, he said "the moment I'm not psyched to go to training camp is the moment I'll know it's time." I think Favre is caught in the magic and mystique of Sunday, and isn't caring too much about training camp and monday through thursday practices.
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 03:53 AM

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Pedantic Slum wants you all to rethink you're apostrophes...


I like that's and there's and whatnots. I am not a fan of this pedantical correctness and feel it's (heeee!) ripe for disallusionment in certain crowds.
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