[QuickTidal]

Slow Ben, on 18 October 2011 - 04:27 PM, said:

Abyss, on 18 October 2011 - 04:07 PM, said:

Slow Ben, on 18 October 2011 - 03:50 PM, said:

...after 3 episodes i"m happy Modern Family is still the best show on TV.

i go back and forth on this show... some parts are brilliant and then there seem to be long stretches of overtly trying/failing to be that good.

I dont get that myself. I never get tired of watching that show. I could just listen to Phil ramble all day.


I am brave. Roller coasters? Love ‘em. Scary movies? I’ve seen Ghostbusters like 7 times. I regularly drive through neighborhoods that have only recently been gentrified. So yeah, I’m pretty much not afraid of anything...

LMAO! I love Phil. My girlfriend and I see similarities between him and me all the time. LOL

[QuickTidal]

This link is actually a fair point I hadn't thought about, and kind of a strike against TERRA NOVA as a whole...

http://io9.com/58511...-like-the-event

[Slow Ben]

Been catching up on season 8 of the office.

Only 3 episodes in, but James Spader's character annoys the shit out of me. I'm hoping he's gone soon.

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 19 October 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

This link is actually a fair point I hadn't thought about, and kind of a strike against TERRA NOVA as a whole...

http://io9.com/58511...-like-the-event

On the one hand, yep. And unfortunately true, especially the analogy to The Event.

Otoh, ummm, maybe Mira didn't tell Shannon stuff because she doesn't trust him yet? ...which is a fairly facile explanation considering.

Not defending the show - it's got its problems, but not everything is an insult to the audience. Just most things.

[QuickTidal]

Slow Ben, on 19 October 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

Been catching up on season 8 of the office.

Only 3 episodes in, but James Spader's character annoys the shit out of me. I'm hoping he's gone soon.

Nope, as far as I've heard he will be replacing Kathy Bates as the CEO of Sabre-Dunder Mifflin and be a regular.

I know what you mean though and it was a key reason I've stopped watching the show regularly. I actually think it's gone a bit off the rails of recent anyways.

[Slow Ben]

QuickTidal, on 19 October 2011 - 02:58 PM, said:

Slow Ben, on 19 October 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

Been catching up on season 8 of the office.

Only 3 episodes in, but James Spader's character annoys the shit out of me. I'm hoping he's gone soon.

Nope, as far as I've heard he will be replacing Kathy Bates as the CEO of Sabre-Dunder Mifflin and be a regular.

I know what you mean though and it was a key reason I've stopped watching the show regularly. I actually think it's gone a bit off the rails of recent anyways.

Yeah, think season 7 was the weakest so far and I was really hoping the show could survive

Spoiler

Michael leaving

but i'm pretty sure that was just wishful thinking now.

[Abyss]

Abyss, on 19 October 2011 - 02:25 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 19 October 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

This link is actually a fair point I hadn't thought about, and kind of a strike against TERRA NOVA as a whole...

http://io9.com/58511...-like-the-event

On the one hand, yep. And unfortunately true, especially the analogy to The Event.

Otoh, ummm, maybe Mira didn't tell Shannon stuff because she doesn't trust him yet? ...which is a fairly facile explanation considering.

Not defending the show - it's got its problems, but not everything is an insult to the audience. Just most things.

this prompted me to go skim through the thread we had running for THE EVENT, which was amusing but ominous in terms of TERRA's chances.

[QuickTidal]

Watched the premier of ONCE UPON A TIME (AKA FABLES) and you know what? Probably the most solid debut of a fall show out of the gate this year. I quite enjoyed it.

[McLovin]

Glad to hear you liked it. It's on my DVR, along with piling up episodes of TERRA NOVA and PERSON OF INTEREST.

Right now, my evening TV watching is all baseball.

[QuickTidal]

McLovin, on 24 October 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

Glad to hear you liked it. It's on my DVR, along with piling up episodes of TERRA NOVA and PERSON OF INTEREST.

It's interesting because they juxtapose the somewhat silly fairytale world with the real world stuff which has a more serious edge...but then by about the midway point even the fairytale world stuff didn't seem too bad. If you take it as tongue in cheek of course. Little cheesy nods were great like the equivalent of Malificent's real-world incarnation offering the main character (Emma Swan) the BEST spiced apple cider...a campy nod to the Snow White story that actually came across as charming to me. So yeah, I think even the fairytale stuff (which only really suffers in that one scene at the beginning) gets better.

Anyways, it's nice to see something new on TV that is NOT a police procedural, hospital show, lawyer show, or teen school life show.

Oh and the trailer for the rest of the season shows at the end and it seems that (kind of like LOST) we will see flashbacks between the past (pre-catastrophic spell) Fairytale land and the Present (no one remembers) real world. I'm interested to see if a mechanic that worked so well on LOST will give ABC another hit.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 24 October 2011 - 01:38 PM

[Slow Ben]

McLovin, on 24 October 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

Glad to hear you liked it. It's on my DVR, along with piling up episodes of TERRA NOVA and PERSON OF INTEREST.

Right now, my evening TV watching is all baseball.

Yeah, the ole lady put it on this morning, and it wasnt a half bad show. I thought it would be cheesy as hell, but i actually enjoyed it.




Ditto with the baseball. Good series!

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 24 October 2011 - 02:00 AM, said:

Watched the premier of ONCE UPON A TIME (AKA FABLES) and you know what? Probably the most solid debut of a fall show out of the gate this year. I quite enjoyed it.

Huh... ok... may revise my uninformed pre-opinion and take a look.

Am curious to see how this competes with GRIMM.

TERRA NOVA was marginally better last week. The story made too limited use of the setting and dinos, but wasn't bad overall.

Last weeks PERSONS OF INTEREST was almost great. I really liked how Gun-Jesus turned the tables on the gangsters at the end. tho he really needs to stop shooting to wound. The whole car trunk interrogation thing was awesome tho'.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 24 October 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 24 October 2011 - 02:00 AM, said:

Watched the premier of ONCE UPON A TIME (AKA FABLES) and you know what? Probably the most solid debut of a fall show out of the gate this year. I quite enjoyed it.

Huh... ok... may revise my uninformed pre-opinion and take a look.

Am curious to see how this competes with GRIMM.

I actually have a strange feeling that GRIMM will not do as well as ONCE simple because the Friday night timeslot (Whereas ONCE sits in a prime time slot on Sunday, a night when everyone is home) and because the police procedural nature might make GRIMM flag early on. I'll reserve judgement till I watch it, but for now I feel it has the potential to be another fall flop.

Abyss, on 24 October 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

TERRA NOVA was marginally better last week. The story made too limited use of the setting and dinos, but wasn't bad overall.

Indeed, it gets a bit better each week and the news just dropped recently that the last episode would see the story showing us back in 2149-I-Can't-Breathe earth stuff, which can only enhance the overall narrative arc. In fact, I'd be REALLY pleased if the entire finale took place there (with non-Terra nova based characters) giving us a whole other plot thread to consume in Season 2 (if it gets one)

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 24 October 2011 - 03:09 PM

[QuickTidal]

Okay, this just in an hour ago or so:

ONCE UPON A TIME debuts with the highest ratings of any new Drama this season yet.

http://mediadecoder....ce-upon-a-time/

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 24 October 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

Okay, this just in an hour ago or so:

ONCE UPON A TIME debuts with the highest ratings of any new Drama this season yet.

http://mediadecoder....ce-upon-a-time/

And yet every review i read leaves me less interested.

I think it's the near blatant Fables rip-off that's bothering me.

I tend to agree with you that Grimm's prospects look.... wait for it.... waaaAAAAAiiit for it...


- Abyss, ..... WAAAAAAIIIITTTTT FOOOOOORRRRR IITTTTTT........

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 24 October 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 24 October 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

Okay, this just in an hour ago or so:

ONCE UPON A TIME debuts with the highest ratings of any new Drama this season yet.

http://mediadecoder....ce-upon-a-time/

And yet every review i read leaves me less interested.

I think it's the near blatant Fables rip-off that's bothering me.

I tend to agree with you that Grimm's prospects look.... wait for it.... waaaAAAAAiiit for it...


- Abyss, ..... WAAAAAAIIIITTTTT FOOOOOORRRRR IITTTTTT........

Indeed, the FABLES comparison is the easiest one to make. It's an obvious crib of the idea.

Though I doubt that the writers would be ballsy enough to touch specific FABLES plotlines, so I think we'll see another animal in the show.

To each their own, I put my seal all over the first ep with aplomb. Fun, genre TV with the capacity of good storytelling.

[amphibian]

Abyss, on 24 October 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

And yet every review i read leaves me less interested.

I think it's the near blatant Fables rip-off that's bothering me.

You probably have read and liked Fables. You understand that tv shows that show promise and are getting good reviews from people you respect generally tend to have upwards trends as they figure out character voices and how to plot things just so. Each component of this is known to you.

And yet, you're less interested in this with every review you read.

It's probably because you won't admit to yourself that you generally like big dumb explodey things more than other things when the other things aren't quite at a stellar level from the get go.

[Abyss]

amphibian, on 24 October 2011 - 08:44 PM, said:

Abyss, on 24 October 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

And yet every review i read leaves me less interested.

I think it's the near blatant Fables rip-off that's bothering me.

You probably have read and liked Fables. You understand that tv shows that show promise and are getting good reviews from people you respect generally tend to have upwards trends as they figure out character voices and how to plot things just so. Each component of this is known to you.

And yet, you're less interested in this with every review you read.

It's probably because you won't admit to yourself that you generally like big dumb explodey things more than other things when the other things aren't quite at a stellar level from the get go.

Yes but no...

Yes in that It's more a feeling of general ennui with television shows that have nothing new to offer. Of course i have read and utterly enjoyed Fables, but i'm willing to give virtually anything genre related provided i don't have this omnipresent feeling that i've seen it before, see by examples NO ORDINARY FAMILY, ALPHAS and BEING HUMAN, all of which promised to be strikingly original, notwithstanding obvious analogies to other work, and all of which failed to deliver for me at least. I know the latter two have their fans and it's all good for them.

But i seem to be in a phase of less patience with my entertainment "when the other things aren't quite at a stellar level from the get go.", hence our discussion elsethread when EMBASSYTOWN was slo-go to start. Probably because i have less leisure time in general.

And no in that i think i'm clearly on record with my deep abiding love for big massive kersplosions with a healthy dose of big stupid hollywood wherein things go roar and dudes get kicked through walls. But that's far from the only stuff i enjoy.

To be clear, the reviews HERE are encouraging... it's the comments elsenet that keep reminding me the show is marketing itself as 'Ooo! Look! Snow White with a Sword!!! We clever!!!!'.

But i will likely check it out sooner or later.

[HoosierDaddy]

Abyss, on 24 October 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 24 October 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

Okay, this just in an hour ago or so:

ONCE UPON A TIME debuts with the highest ratings of any new Drama this season yet.

http://mediadecoder....ce-upon-a-time/

And yet every review i read leaves me less interested.

I think it's the near blatant Fables rip-off that's bothering me.

I tend to agree with you that Grimm's prospects look.... wait for it.... waaaAAAAAiiit for it...


- Abyss, ..... WAAAAAAIIIITTTTT FOOOOOORRRRR IITTTTTT........

Spoiler

GRIM!

No new TV series have caught my fancy.

[Coco with marshmallows]

Well, after hearing much praise on here, on Thursday night I streamed the pilot of Community. Then the next episode. And so on......

Just finished watching Remedial Chaos theory.

Spoiler

Evil Troy and Evil Aaaaaabed

Good stuff indeed, thanks to all those who recommended it either in this thread or in chat.