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Halfway through series 2 atm, not as good as the 1st series but still pretty good!
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 02:03 AM
Wait until the end 
Seasons 2 and 4 are a bit odd in that the seasons start off with the characters all over the place and it takes a while for all the story threads to come together. When they do come together, awesomeness results. Seasons 1, 3 and 5 are somewhat more coherent from start to finish as well. Both approaches seem to work, with S4 generally regarded as the best (although I think I favour S3 just a bit more) based on my unscientific anecdotal evidence.
Seasons 2 and 4 are a bit odd in that the seasons start off with the characters all over the place and it takes a while for all the story threads to come together. When they do come together, awesomeness results. Seasons 1, 3 and 5 are somewhat more coherent from start to finish as well. Both approaches seem to work, with S4 generally regarded as the best (although I think I favour S3 just a bit more) based on my unscientific anecdotal evidence.
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 10:31 PM
Im on series 5 now, I've been blown away by the quality of this programme. Some of the stuff I didnt see happening at all, and I like the fact they infude alot of new characters while keeping the same core throughout.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 11:32 PM
<as copied from the other thread>
So, there's this great series. takes place in some of the most popular places in the states. it's flashy, it's entertaining, and you can even forgive all the bullshit they put forward and get to the end of the episode without feeling cheated. they even made 3 seperate series of those.
then there's that another one, a sort of spinoff from JAG, following the people of a CI unit for the navy, and it's even better. it throws the previous one's flashy shit out of the window and gets down to the ground, putting more energy into the plot and characters. awesome stuff.
then there's this pearl, this gem of TV production, and another proof that HBO kicks nbc and fox ass. you've got a gritty setting, story arcs that last an entire season, zillions of characters, and believable language, behaviour and methods. it touches the street level, in the office, the bosses, the political cream. it puts the story in perspective, showing it from various viewpoints - police detectives, chiefs, polititians, drug kingpins, regular dockworkers, corner kids, ex-inmates... this show reveals the proper methods, the bog of internal struggles within the city and within crime organisations. it shows big players, and the little guys that get caught between their machinations, trying to avoid being crushed. it's a crime show that goes beyond being merely a crime show and goes on depict the functioning of an entire city.
personally I like the last show the most, and by far. I'll assume at least most of you will have no problem naming the 3 shows in your heads, so... what's your oppinion? which do you prefer?
(and no. capital letters are useless!)
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so reading through all of this, I might have finally found something I agree with Amphibian on! there's a first for everything it seems
one of the things that strikes me is that Omar is based on people who actually did what he does. THEY ROBBED GOD DAMNED DRUG DEALERS. and they live to tell the tale to this day. how badass can you get?
also, how does a city go this bad? there's other places you'd expect to be really bad, like New York, Philly, Boston, Chicago, Detroit... but they kind of pale in comparison to lil' Baltimore on violent crimes. it's like the Hull of the USA!
So, there's this great series. takes place in some of the most popular places in the states. it's flashy, it's entertaining, and you can even forgive all the bullshit they put forward and get to the end of the episode without feeling cheated. they even made 3 seperate series of those.
then there's that another one, a sort of spinoff from JAG, following the people of a CI unit for the navy, and it's even better. it throws the previous one's flashy shit out of the window and gets down to the ground, putting more energy into the plot and characters. awesome stuff.
then there's this pearl, this gem of TV production, and another proof that HBO kicks nbc and fox ass. you've got a gritty setting, story arcs that last an entire season, zillions of characters, and believable language, behaviour and methods. it touches the street level, in the office, the bosses, the political cream. it puts the story in perspective, showing it from various viewpoints - police detectives, chiefs, polititians, drug kingpins, regular dockworkers, corner kids, ex-inmates... this show reveals the proper methods, the bog of internal struggles within the city and within crime organisations. it shows big players, and the little guys that get caught between their machinations, trying to avoid being crushed. it's a crime show that goes beyond being merely a crime show and goes on depict the functioning of an entire city.
personally I like the last show the most, and by far. I'll assume at least most of you will have no problem naming the 3 shows in your heads, so... what's your oppinion? which do you prefer?
(and no. capital letters are useless!)
</as copied from the other thread>
so reading through all of this, I might have finally found something I agree with Amphibian on! there's a first for everything it seems
one of the things that strikes me is that Omar is based on people who actually did what he does. THEY ROBBED GOD DAMNED DRUG DEALERS. and they live to tell the tale to this day. how badass can you get?
also, how does a city go this bad? there's other places you'd expect to be really bad, like New York, Philly, Boston, Chicago, Detroit... but they kind of pale in comparison to lil' Baltimore on violent crimes. it's like the Hull of the USA!
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 12:44 AM
Gothos, on 23 October 2009 - 11:32 PM, said:
one of the things that strikes me is that Omar is based on people who actually did what he does. THEY ROBBED GOD DAMNED DRUG DEALERS. and they live to tell the tale to this day. how badass can you get?
also, how does a city go this bad? there's other places you'd expect to be really bad, like New York, Philly, Boston, Chicago, Detroit... but they kind of pale in comparison to lil' Baltimore on violent crimes. it's like the Hull of the USA!
also, how does a city go this bad? there's other places you'd expect to be really bad, like New York, Philly, Boston, Chicago, Detroit... but they kind of pale in comparison to lil' Baltimore on violent crimes. it's like the Hull of the USA!
Have you seen all five seasons? I ask because there's a couple things about Omar that you have to see on-screen first, before I can tell you some of the actual legends behind them.
Baltimore's bad, for sure. Do not leave the Inner Harbor area unless you know where you're going. However, Detroit is further along the "decaying city" scale and Miami has more crime on average.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 08:19 AM
finishing season 4 right now
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 07:02 AM
Gothos, on 24 October 2009 - 08:19 AM, said:
finishing season 4 right now
Alright, let me know when you get to the Jump in Season 5. You'll know what I mean when you see it.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:02 PM
agreed...hence why I started this thread last year.
I couldn't stop watching this show once I started. Awesome. Especially season 1.
I couldn't stop watching this show once I started. Awesome. Especially season 1.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:48 PM
btw, is it just me or you guys agree with me that Snoop is just god damn scary?
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:51 PM
Yeah she is, and i think the actress who plays the part is actually a former gang member from there too.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 05:12 PM
ya fukn SNOOP, gon fukn snoop da shit out ya.
She's one of my favourite characters. Hilarious every time she opens her mouth.
She's one of my favourite characters. Hilarious every time she opens her mouth.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 02:17 AM
Binder of Demons, on 26 October 2009 - 02:51 PM, said:
Yeah she is, and i think the actress who plays the part is actually a former gang member from there too.
Snoop was born to two crack fiends and managed to survive. She was convicted of murdering a girl, got out and ran into the actor who plays Omar. He got her onto the show and the rest you know.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:59 AM
season 5 episode 3 so far and... I really, really want to kick McNulty's face in. really. shiieeeeeeet.
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 11:04 PM
ok so I'm finished with it now and...
BLOODY HELL, watching this series was one of the worst mistakes of my life. now I won't be able to watch any other one without it feeling like watching cartoons! DAMN!
it'll have to be one hell of a show, of any kind, to ever beat this baby. I can with all honesty say, this is the best show ever made. ever. peroid.
BLOODY HELL, watching this series was one of the worst mistakes of my life. now I won't be able to watch any other one without it feeling like watching cartoons! DAMN!
it'll have to be one hell of a show, of any kind, to ever beat this baby. I can with all honesty say, this is the best show ever made. ever. peroid.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 12:05 AM
Deadwood period. is period. better period.
I really hated season 5 of the wire.
I really hated season 5 of the wire.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 02:24 AM
According to his agent, Aiden Gillen - Tommy Carcetti in The Wire - is apparently in discussions to play Littlefinger in Game of Thrones if it goes to series.
That would be a brilliant piece of casting.
That would be a brilliant piece of casting.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:10 AM
Gothos, on 29 October 2009 - 11:04 PM, said:
ok so I'm finished with it now and...
BLOODY HELL, watching this series was one of the worst mistakes of my life. now I won't be able to watch any other one without it feeling like watching cartoons! DAMN!
it'll have to be one hell of a show, of any kind, to ever beat this baby. I can with all honesty say, this is the best show ever made. ever. peroid.
BLOODY HELL, watching this series was one of the worst mistakes of my life. now I won't be able to watch any other one without it feeling like watching cartoons! DAMN!
it'll have to be one hell of a show, of any kind, to ever beat this baby. I can with all honesty say, this is the best show ever made. ever. peroid.
Amen.
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Jusentantaka, on 30 October 2009 - 12:05 AM, said:
Deadwood period. is period. better period.
No. It's definitely Shakespearean, but The Wire is better on almost every level imaginable.
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I really hated season 5 of the wire.
I think the creators of the show really screwed up by accepting the arbitrary 10 episode limit imposed by HBO. The beauty of The Wire was that the plotlines had room to develop and breathe. The truncated season meant that the kids from Season 4 had to be given short shrift - which was a travesty - and the newspaper arc was shoddily handled.
Werthead, on 31 October 2009 - 02:24 AM, said:
According to his agent, Aiden Gillen - Tommy Carcetti in The Wire - is apparently in discussions to play Littlefinger in Game of Thrones if it goes to series.
That would be a brilliant piece of casting.
That would be a brilliant piece of casting.
It would indeed.
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 09:30 PM
SSSHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIITTTTTEEE bitches, it's all in the game ! 
Just thought i'd share this little gem with you, although imo it is missing a few of my favourites, particularly from the Bunkster.
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Enjoy.
Just thought i'd share this little gem with you, although imo it is missing a few of my favourites, particularly from the Bunkster.
http://www.pajiba.co...om-the-wire.php
Enjoy.
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I've been on a Wire binge recently. Almost through the second season now. Damn this show is good. Why did I never watch this before? It's like watching a small movie every episode. All those story arcs weaving in and out between each other. I love the characters too. I think Bunk is my favorite so far. He's like a big fuzzy cigar smoking teddy bear that can't hold his drink. Omah is awesome as well. I've taken to whistling his little tune now and again.
