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Darujhistan - what's in a name?

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 09:52 AM

What does "Darujhistan" mean?

While I was procrastinating from studying, my brain randomly came up with this question. Random musings follow:

It's a combination of "Daru" and "jhistan"; From the wiki: A Jhistal is both a title and a people, more the former now than the latter.
So is the "jhistan" referring to the high priest title (Mallick Rel) definition, or the people definition? My guess is there is some connection to K'Rul given his strong presence there.

Sorry if this has already been raised, but I couldn't really tell because the forum search is borked.
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 09:58 AM

I don't Darujistan is a combination of Daru and Jhistan.

I think Daru is just the name of the people living in Darujhistan, is better than saying Darujhistanise
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 10:11 AM

I'm not so sure, "jhistal" and "jhistan" are very similar. I doubt it's coincidence that SE makes part of the name of an important city very similar to a word he created.

It may be that Jhistal is derived from Darujhistan and not the other way around, which is what I'm thinking.
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 10:15 AM

But he didn't create a word called Jhistan. He created a word called Darujhistan.

I think you're reading way, waaay too much into it.
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 10:22 AM

I agree with Apt, for all it matters... it's like saying Manchester and the word "chest" are linked.
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 10:43 AM

But "jhistal" is Falari. Although seeing as D-Stan was born on a rumour....
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 10:50 AM

The -istan is just a common suffix for country or state. Pakistan, Tajikistan, etc, should show that. The Daru refers to the people who founded the city state.

If he'd have called it Daru City or Darutown I dont think this would be an issue for debate.
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 12:52 PM

Your probably right. Only want to say:people from Tagikistan or Kirgizistan are called Kirgizi and Tagiki so why are Darujhistan are called Daru and not...Darujhi?
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 03:28 PM

It just means "Place of the Daru", the -ji- was probably put in to represent the "of".
For example: Afghanistan, Tadjikistan, Uzbekistan... The people are Uzbeks, Tadjiks and Afghans, but there's a vowel between each culture name and the "stan". Alternatively, the -ji- could represent plurality, as in Bauchelain's parallel examples above.
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Posted 15 June 2008 - 01:37 AM

_stan seems to be a common name for cities in Genabackis, so i think it just means City of the DFaru. Like Capustan is home to the Capu people.
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Posted 15 June 2008 - 04:46 AM

-stan appended to a group means land of in Persian, which for hundreds of years was the Latin of the east.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 07:34 AM

I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with why SE chose the name, but 'Daru' in the Urdu, Hindi, Pashtu, etc. means wine. '-istan' means 'land of'. So if we ignore the 'jh' in the middle, Darujhistan would mean 'The land of wine'.

But what if we take the entire word 'Darujh'? Hmm. Well, 'Darj' can mean either something that is written, or can be the verb, to register. But a more fitting word could be Durj, the plural of which is Duruj, which is a small casket for depositing gems.

So if Darujhistan is Durujistan then its The Land of Treasure Troves, or even The Land of Gem Caskets!

All that aside, I'm guessing that SE probably just thought the name sounded nice. :-)
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 07:51 AM

Bauchelain the Evil;329598 said:

Your probably right. Only want to say:people from Tagikistan or Kirgizistan are called Kirgizi and Tagiki so why are Darujhistan are called Daru and not...Darujhi?



Well, considering you're completely wrong, and the people are in fact ACTUALLY called the Kyrgyz and Tajiks, I'd say it fits in rather well, wouldn't you? :D ;)

http://en.wikipedia....s_of_Tajikistan

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 12:08 PM

Ok, I can answer this question definitively now, having asked SE and got the answer. :D

*is smug*

It's just a name. Nothing to do with Jhistal or anything like that, it's just like Pakistan or Afghanistan etc. The Daru people, then the jhistan as a suffix.
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