[Aptorian]

I don't think this teaser has been posted here yet:



Some early thoughts:

This isn't actually a good teaser to me. It feels like it is just showing us a copy of season 1. A country'ish sad song, various actors looking pained, close-up's of people in great lighting, some crime police stuff. Feels like they just want to attract the people who liked the first season, rather than showing what makes Season 2 different.

There's too many people here. The first season was about McConaughey and Harrelson's characters and their lives. In this promo you have 4 central characters. That's too much.

I am also suspicious that Vaughn is the bad guy. So did they just show us who the big bad is from the start? Or is there more to this story?

Eh. Season 1 was something special. I have doubts about them recreating the success.

[worry]

It's not the best teaser, but gotta say re: the season as a whole it makes me feel quite the opposite. Not in terms of how good it will be or not, just in terms of the feeling, it doesn't seem at all to be aping season 1. There's only glimpses, but it looks more like it's gonna mash up a lot of LA noir stuff like Chinatown with more modern cop stuff like The Shield. I guess with noir the detective element (Farrell in particular) isn't gonna veer too far from season 1, but the sprawl and seediness of LA just feels different from that beyond rural off the radar feeling the first season had.

I do agree that season 1 was something special, and I think S2 is gonna feel a lot more familiar detective fiction than S1.

[QuickTidal]

I agree with Worry.

Also with Justin Lin iin the directors chair it's going to FEEL totally different.

[Ceda Cicero]

I think I'm mostly just skeptical about the range of the cast. McConaughey and Harrelson, to my mind, gave once-in-a-lifetime performances; I would watch a movie of those two characters painting a house together and nothing else. I don't have particular beef with any of the leads for season 2 but I don't know if their chops are quite up to snuff, and I'll be surprised (pleasantly surprised) if they can bring it at the same level as the guys from Season 1. If they do, though, could really change the trajectory of each of their careers.

I also don't think it's right, with this particular show, to place a whole lot of stock in a 61 second trailer. To my mind what made season 1 brilliant had way, way less to do with the through plot (or even the subplots) and much more to do with the subtleties, the nuanced dialogue, etc.

Also, not to nitpick, Apt, but your first paragraph criticizes the trailer for being too much of a rehash of season 1... then in the next paragraph you're like, season 1 was X... why isn't season 2 X?

This post has been edited by Ceda Cicero: 10 April 2015 - 04:06 PM

[Studlock]

I like the feel of the teaser, more noir than country mystery and honestly I'm alright with that. I agree with worry that it kind of resembles Chinatown, more than anything else really. As for the principle characters I'm not really worried about Colin Farrel or McAdams, I think both have showed that they have the chops. I don't know anything about the Kitsch guy so he's a wild card for me. I am a bit worried about Vince Vaughn--does he have the necessary presence to hold down the villain spot?

[Aptorian]

Ceda Cicero, on 10 April 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

Also, not to nitpick, Apt, but your first paragraph criticizes the trailer for being too much of a rehash of season 1... then in the next paragraph you're like, season 1 was X... why isn't season 2 X?

You're not wrong. I am mostly full of shit.

Briar King, on 10 April 2015 - 06:45 PM, said:

There's a perfectly good thread right here.

http://forum.malazan...true-detective/

Yeah. However I feel like the show's seasons have no overlap. Makes more sense to have a thread for each season.

[polishgenius]

Season 1 was ace while watching but the ending was a letdown in some respects and I've felt no desire to rewatch it at all, which is curious given how obsessed I was with it at the time.

I am slightly worried about this but for the most part of it the writing of the first season was so strong that I find it hard to believe the same person could make something weak, and even if it doesn't start as stellar, a better conclusion could make for a more memorable season overall, so I'm definitely looking forward to it.

With this, and Hannibal earlier on in June, it could be a great summer of telly.

[koehkont]

I'll watch anything with Rachel McAdams. I think I am in some kind of distance like worship which I told myself might be love

[Tiste Simeon]

BK is just mad cos season 2 isn't about him like season 1 was.

[Gnaw]

I got to episode 4 or so before I realized that I wasn't going to see Farrell or McAdams. However, I was truly hooked.

If the second season is half as good as the first, it'll be better than most of what's on tv.

[Bulwyf]

So far I like the motley crew of "broken" cops we have gathered at episode 1. There's potential for sure!

[Bulwyf]

I'm guessing bean bag/rubber bullet shells.
Didn't look like any splatter...
Or the show could be really awesome and have offed him in episode 2...

[Terez]

After the first episode I had the thought that Frank's wife was actually a transgender woman and the real rapist, mostly because of that bright red hair and the fact that she's the first red-haired person we see after the introduction of the paternity mystery, the kid with bright red hair. Then I rewatched that episode and noticed that Frank says early on in that first scene with his wife (ostensibly about himself, wearing cuff links etc.) "Behold what was once a man."

I figure she probably had her gender reassignment surgery done at Casper's weird psych clinic / cosmetic surgery facility. My main question is whether Frank knows. He mentioned IVF in the first episode when talking with Velcoro ("not looking forward to jerking off in a cup" or whatever). He mentioned not having kids again in the strange opening scene of ep 2, how he doesn't know what to do with money without any kids to leave it to. That doesn't mean he doesn't know that his wife was once a man (though he would have to have been lying about the IVF), but the overall tone of his remarks (including "behold") suggests that he does not know.

His wife definitely seems to care more about the money than he does, which suggests that she's part of a long-running scheme to cheat Frank out of his stakes in Vinci. I have read elsewhere the possibility that the raven shooter dude is actually the mayor's son whom Frank rescued from some kind of trouble with a coked-up hit-and-run years back ("my son, I fear, is losing his fucking mind"). I find that believable too. Somehow they are working together.

Velcoro asked Frank how he knew his (Velcoro's) wife's description of the rapist. Now I have to wonder if even Velcoro knew his wife's description. Maybe she knew better than to tell him, and was thus doubly horrified when he told her that he took care of it. Clearly the guy was someone Frank wanted dead, or someone else wanted him dead. The picture was of a man with brown hair. Perhaps she gave Velcoro a vague description (medium height, medium build, brown hair, brown eyes) so that he wouldn't be able to find the rapist. Perhaps Velcoro then told someone at the police department, or the mayor, or whatever. They put the unwitting Velcoro on their hit job and at the same time entrapped him as their patsy in the criminal network of Vinci.

[Battalion]

I've liked the first two episodes, the scene with the guy with the crow mask was quality (especially liked the music). But I've been sort of messing about with my phone and stuff while watching - what's all this about Frank's wife being a man? Is this a theory or is it stated in the show?

[Terez]

It's just my loony theory. Frank does say "Behold what was once a man" in his first scene with her, but it's supposed to be about himself.

[Battalion]

Anyone else think the scene with Frank and the fat bloke with the gold teeth was a total shit fest?

[Terez]

Depends on what "shit fest" means.

[Battalion]

That is to say I didn't like it very much

[Tapper]

Battalion, on 08 July 2015 - 09:40 AM, said:

That is to say I didn't like it very much

Not entirely a shitfest, it served a function, I guess. Three episodes in, I think this season is about the main characters dealing with their own corruption, rather than an outside corruption of the whole establishment.

Frank seemed to be on a Michael Corleone road to legit businessman - and just like Corleone he falls back to being a crook - the protection racket on the building site and the dental care he performed being the first steps of this.
Velcoro has his strings pulled and will be torn between the investigation, the Vinci city bureaucracy and Frank.
Woodlugh is involved in a scandal and it may well be that his only way out would be coming out, but he might also be highly susceptible to blackmail.
Ani's investigation is now part of a bigger scheme: state police wants to root out corruption in Vinci, all she wants is finding the murderer - a bit like the investigation of Marty and Rust being under pressure from the Tuttles in season 1.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 08 July 2015 - 11:04 AM

[Battalion]

Yeah, I agree he needed to show he was still the main man. But having a fist fight with a local gang rival ... can't really see Don Corleone and Solozzo going at it while all their henchmen look on.