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Posted 25 March 2009 - 10:26 PM

I apologize if this has been addressed already but I couldn't find a specific order of things. From what I can gather, ICE's books and SE's books, though different (Kinda) coincide with eachother. However, what about the tales of Bauchelain and Korbal Broach?

I'm planning on going and buying all the books tomorrow sometime and I wanted to make sure I got all the books pertaining to the story, and if so, what is the proper reading order of The Tales of Bauchelain and Korbal Broach thrown in with ICE's books and SE's books?

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 09:42 PM

Good question! For the Erikson/Esslemont novels, the standard answer is to read them in publication order (so: NoK before BH, RotCG before TtH.)

Where the Bauchelain & Korbal Broach stories fit in, I've never heard, though I'm sure they must come before MoI, chronologically. Oh, and the 3rd B&KB story is actually the second, chronologically.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE (Salt-Man Z @ Mar 26 2009, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good question! For the Erikson/Esslemont novels, the standard answer is to read them in publication order (so: NoK before BH, RotCG before TtH.)

Where the Bauchelain & Korbal Broach stories fit in, I've never heard, though I'm sure they must come before MoI, chronologically. Oh, and the 3rd B&KB story is actually the second, chronologically.


Thanks for the info mate. I'm still searching. I'm just curious so I can catch all of the information possible while keeping it chronologically in sync. OCD or something, just how it is lol.
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Posted 28 March 2009 - 10:39 AM

Hmm, I'm thinking that NoK should be read before GotM, but atleast that is my opinion.

The first time that I read NoK it was after GotM and before DHG, it explained some things that happened in GotM Kellanved\Shadowthrone and Dancer\Cotillion wise since it explains how the former became the later (not sure if this should be masked, but he still has to read them I see).

On RotCG I wasn't sure yet if it should be read before or after Reaper's Gale, but after Reaper's Gale seems fine to me.

On the Korbald Broach and Bauchelein part I'm not sure yet, still gotta read them.

I hope it helps.

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 12:29 PM

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Hmm, I'm thinking that NoK should be read before GotM, but atleast that is my opinion.


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Posted 28 March 2009 - 07:22 PM

I disagree, too, because NoK reveals some important things [who ST and Cot are] and thus leaves you without the 'aha!' moments in GotM/DG concerning this. I'd say, read NoK before or after tBH. But any other time after DG should be as good.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 05:49 AM

I would say NoK before tBH, just because SE gives several NoK characters cameos in tBH and for those who haven't read NoK, those are complete "wtf" moments, since you have clue who these people are.

as for RotCG, I read it after TtH, because that's how they were released in Canada, and there's only one really minor RotCG spoiler in TtH, otherwise the books are pretty much unrelated.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 06:18 AM

I definitely recommend the order in which SE's books are published, but if you're asking about SE/ ICE's books together, fit NoK and RoTCG around the 6th book in SE's series. NoK is after MT is because it sheds light on some things that happen in BH. RoTCG closes out happenings on Quon Tali and in Malaz City so it follows on nicely from BH.

GoTM > DG > MoI > HoC > MT > NoK > BH > RoTCG > RG > TtH >

If you are re-reading however, my recommendation changes a little:

NoK > GoTM > DG > MoI > HoC > BH > RoTCG > TtH > MT > RG >

This sets you up nicely for DoD which follows on most directly from MT and RG
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 04:18 AM

Bauchelain and Korbal Broach are definitely before MoI. If you get the collected edition then the three novellas are already in the book in their reading order (Blood Follows, Lees of Laughter's End, The Healthy Dead). The novella in the middle is a masterpiece. And for everyone who still has to read these: this is by far the best writing Erikson achieved (at least up to book three, as I've yet to read further).

There are various interesting elements in the novellas as well, but the plot itself is going to be anticlimactic as the characters are much better developed and used in these novellas than they are in MoI. So it's a bit deluding.
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 12:45 AM

Hello everybody. New to this website and boy is it awsome. Great resource. Thinking about doing my reread using the chronological order of the books themselves (despite repeated warning of ignoring anything to do with timelines). So it would be:
NoK-BF-LofLE-Hd-MT-GofTM-DG-MoI-HoC-tBH-RG-RoftCG-TTH.
I believe this is the actual chronological order.
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 06:25 AM

QUOTE (petesapizza @ Apr 6 2009, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everybody. New to this website and boy is it awsome. Great resource. Thinking about doing my reread using the chronological order of the books themselves (despite repeated warning of ignoring anything to do with timelines). So it would be:
NoK-BF-LofLE-Hd-MT-GofTM-DG-MoI-HoC-tBH-RG-RoftCG-TTH.
I believe this is the actual chronological order.


Bravo sir... that is indeed the order, although I do think the B&KB novellae might be misplaced. Don't recall why I think that specifically, but I was under the impression at least one of those books was post MOI.

Also, if you want to be absolutely anal about chronological reading order, consider reading the MT, RG, MOI prologues before all else biggrin.gif
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Posted 12 April 2009 - 10:04 PM

QUOTE (Skywalker @ Apr 6 2009, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (petesapizza @ Apr 6 2009, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everybody. New to this website and boy is it awsome. Great resource. Thinking about doing my reread using the chronological order of the books themselves (despite repeated warning of ignoring anything to do with timelines). So it would be:
NoK-BF-LofLE-Hd-MT-GofTM-DG-MoI-HoC-tBH-RG-RoftCG-TTH.
I believe this is the actual chronological order.


Bravo sir... that is indeed the order, although I do think the B&KB novellae might be misplaced. Don't recall why I think that specifically, but I was under the impression at least one of those books was post MOI.

Also, if you want to be absolutely anal about chronological reading order, consider reading the MT, RG, MOI prologues before all else biggrin.gif



Or go for the even more extreme chronological order of:

1. RotCG Prologue
2. MT Prologue
3. RG Prologue
4. MoI Prologue
5. NoK
6. GotM Prologue
7. MT
8. HoC I (about halfway through, start reading a chapter of HoC for every book of GotM)
9. DG Prologue
10. HoC Prologue
11. DG and MoI, alternating every chapter or so
12. HoC II-IV
13. BH prologue
14. BH (during the last book, start alternating chapters with the start of RG)
15. finish off RG
16. RotCG
17. TtH prologue except for the first part
18. TtH
19. 1st part of TtH prologue
20. TtH epilogue
21. DoD prologue


(of course then there's the even crazier version where all your read a bunch of random flashbacks before starting any of the novels for real...)

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 03:40 AM

QUOTE (D'rek @ Apr 12 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Skywalker @ Apr 6 2009, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (petesapizza @ Apr 6 2009, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everybody. New to this website and boy is it awsome. Great resource. Thinking about doing my reread using the chronological order of the books themselves (despite repeated warning of ignoring anything to do with timelines). So it would be:
NoK-BF-LofLE-Hd-MT-GofTM-DG-MoI-HoC-tBH-RG-RoftCG-TTH.
I believe this is the actual chronological order.


Bravo sir... that is indeed the order, although I do think the B&KB novellae might be misplaced. Don't recall why I think that specifically, but I was under the impression at least one of those books was post MOI.

Also, if you want to be absolutely anal about chronological reading order, consider reading the MT, RG, MOI prologues before all else biggrin.gif



Or go for the even more extreme chronological order of:

1. RotCG Prologue
2. MT Prologue
3. RG Prologue
4. MoI Prologue
5. NoK
6. GotM Prologue
7. MT
8. HoC I (about halfway through, start reading a chapter of HoC for every book of GotM)
9. DG Prologue
10. HoC Prologue
11. DG and MoI, alternating every chapter or so
12. HoC II-IV
13. BH prologue
14. BH (during the last book, start alternating chapters with the start of RG)
15. finish off RG
16. RotCG
17. TtH
18. TtH prologue
19. DoD prologue


(of course then there's the even crazier version where all your read a bunch of random flashbacks before starting any of the novels for real...)


You, sir, have way too much time on your hands.
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (Assail @ Apr 13 2009, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (D'rek @ Apr 12 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Skywalker @ Apr 6 2009, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (petesapizza @ Apr 6 2009, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everybody. New to this website and boy is it awsome. Great resource. Thinking about doing my reread using the chronological order of the books themselves (despite repeated warning of ignoring anything to do with timelines). So it would be:
NoK-BF-LofLE-Hd-MT-GofTM-DG-MoI-HoC-tBH-RG-RoftCG-TTH.
I believe this is the actual chronological order.


Bravo sir... that is indeed the order, although I do think the B&KB novellae might be misplaced. Don't recall why I think that specifically, but I was under the impression at least one of those books was post MOI.

Also, if you want to be absolutely anal about chronological reading order, consider reading the MT, RG, MOI prologues before all else biggrin.gif



Or go for the even more extreme chronological order of: (snip)

(of course then there's the even crazier version where all your read a bunch of random flashbacks before starting any of the novels for real...)


You, sir, have way too much time on your hands.


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Posted 13 April 2009 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE (D'rek @ Apr 12 2009, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Skywalker @ Apr 6 2009, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (petesapizza @ Apr 6 2009, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everybody. New to this website and boy is it awsome. Great resource. Thinking about doing my reread using the chronological order of the books themselves (despite repeated warning of ignoring anything to do with timelines). So it would be:
NoK-BF-LofLE-Hd-MT-GofTM-DG-MoI-HoC-tBH-RG-RoftCG-TTH.
I believe this is the actual chronological order.


Bravo sir... that is indeed the order, although I do think the B&KB novellae might be misplaced. Don't recall why I think that specifically, but I was under the impression at least one of those books was post MOI.

Also, if you want to be absolutely anal about chronological reading order, consider reading the MT, RG, MOI prologues before all else biggrin.gif



Or go for the even more extreme chronological order of:

1. RotCG Prologue
2. MT Prologue
3. RG Prologue
4. MoI Prologue
5. NoK
6. GotM Prologue
7. MT
8. HoC I (about halfway through, start reading a chapter of HoC for every book of GotM)
9. DG Prologue
10. HoC Prologue
11. DG and MoI, alternating every chapter or so
12. HoC II-IV
13. BH prologue
14. BH (during the last book, start alternating chapters with the start of RG)
15. finish off RG
16. RotCG
17. TtH
18. TtH prologue
19. DoD prologue


(of course then there's the even crazier version where all your read a bunch of random flashbacks before starting any of the novels for real...)


Awesome. I've been thinking about doing this for a while. A couple of things: #8 isn't very clear. What do you mean by "halfway through?" Also, doesn't RotCG have some overlap with RG?
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (Skywalker @ Apr 13 2009, 03:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE (D'rek @ Apr 12 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Skywalker @ Apr 6 2009, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (petesapizza @ Apr 6 2009, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everybody. New to this website and boy is it awsome. Great resource. Thinking about doing my reread using the chronological order of the books themselves (despite repeated warning of ignoring anything to do with timelines). So it would be:
NoK-BF-LofLE-Hd-MT-GofTM-DG-MoI-HoC-tBH-RG-RoftCG-TTH.
I believe this is the actual chronological order.


Bravo sir... that is indeed the order, although I do think the B&KB novellae might be misplaced. Don't recall why I think that specifically, but I was under the impression at least one of those books was post MOI.

Also, if you want to be absolutely anal about chronological reading order, consider reading the MT, RG, MOI prologues before all else biggrin.gif



Or go for the even more extreme chronological order of: (snip)

(of course then there's the even crazier version where all your read a bunch of random flashbacks before starting any of the novels for real...)


You, sir, have way too much time on your hands.


Aah... great gobs of gooey virtual rep coming your way D'rek. You worm you! Ahem.


And you sir, need a girlfriend!

Haha, you people are salivating over what I would call a frustrated, unrelaxing read.

Oh wait.... Steven Erikson books!
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 10:13 PM

Thanks for the response guys. I like the books alot but HOLY SHIT you need to be teaching a thesis on this. Thats ALOT of time you got on your hands there Drek to do that (even if it was sarcastic--god I hope it was). Cheers
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:59 PM

You all seem to think that means I have a lot of time on my hands... putting that list together took less than 10 minutes (even had to look up to remember what the HoC prologue was about...). Not that I've ever actually read it all in that order, that's just the chronology...

besides, my extreme nerdiness in regards to this series is already evident from my timelines (see sig)...

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 01:14 AM

Yeah I don't see why D'rek would have had to have spent much time with that. I've thought over a chronology several times in my head and could come up with a similar list in just a few minutes.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 06:39 AM

I never noticed this before, but...why does the TtH prologue come after TtH proper?
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