[Abalieno]

It is now "in stock" at amazon.co.uk.

This is the slightly bigger format compared to classic mass market, since Transworld decided to start using this new format. The same happened for the MM release of Toll the Hounds.

The question is: does this book have also the prologue from Stonewielder?

[MTS]

I doubt it. Esslemont didn't have the prologue for Return of the Crimson Guard in Night of Knives I don't think, so I doubt it will feature in there if it didn't for that or the ROTCG hardback. I could be wrong though. Hetan would probably know.

[Beliar]

There i was hoping i could just wait and get RotCG and TtH in the same size as the rest of my books. Pet hate i know but i hate having a series all at different sizes, it just makes it harder to keep them neatly stored.

[Abalieno]

Well, the harcover don't usually have prologues. The mass market version of Night of Knives definitely had the prologue of RotCG and a few pages of the first chapter.

The real question is how far Esslemont is into the book and if he's able to keep a schedule.

[D'rek]

Well, the harcover don't usually have prologues. The mass market version of Night of Knives definitely had the prologue of RotCG and a few pages of the first chapter.

The real question is how far Esslemont is into the book and if he's able to keep a schedule.

The newer prints of mmpb NoK had the prologues, but when it first came out in mmpb it didn't. Since we haven't gotten the Stonewielder prologue on the forums yet (and afaik aren't getting it anytime soon), there will most likely not be it in the mmpb RotCG until a while later.

[Abalieno]

Uhm, Transworld site doesn't show any other version.

04/06/2007 when it came out in hardcover
05/05/2008 when it came out in paperback, the version I have and that has the prologue

The book was released previously as a limited edition, I think. But Transworld only had those two, and they follow the usual patterns.

[Beliar]

i'm not 100% sure on the names of each size but all my books are the smallest size that they get released at. Hardback is just 2 big for my tastes and the 1st edition paperbacks that they release are bigger than the version i have now.

Am i right in thinking the version just brought out for RotCG is the same size as the newest release of TtH ??

[D'rek]

Uhm, Transworld site doesn't show any other version.

04/06/2007 when it came out in hardcover
05/05/2008 when it came out in paperback, the version I have and that has the prologue

The book was released previously as a limited edition, I think. But Transworld only had those two, and they follow the usual patterns.

I don't think it counts as seperate versions, the book is pretty much the exact same, just a few extra pages in the back which are all part of the "promotional" section, like store ads and whatnot, so I doubt they consider it an official version change...

[Salt-Man Z]

Wow, they really enjoy switching formats on you guys over there, don't they?

At least that explains why my preorder was cancelled.

It looks like Amazon.ca still has the normal-sized MMPB up for preorder. I'm going to cross my fingers and place a preorder there...

[Abyss]

So whoa, backup a second there... Is there a STONEWIELDER prologue in circulation, however limitted?


- Abyss, curious.

[D'rek]

So whoa, backup a second there... Is there a STONEWIELDER prologue in circulation, however limitted?


- Abyss, curious.

No.

[Werthead]

It looks like Amazon.ca still has the normal-sized MMPB up for preorder. I'm going to cross my fingers and place a preorder there...

You're seriously out of luck. All the UK publishers, SF&F or otherwise, are moving to the new mass-market paperback 'B' size as the new default size for all their books. Gollancz and Orbit have been switching over the last year, although Voyager seems to be holding out (they recently rejacketed all of Robin Hobb and Raymond Feist's books in the standard paperback size), and Bantam have also now made a start with Erikson and Durham. Not only would I not expect a 'normal' paperback size to appear, I am fully expecting all of the existing Malazan books to all jump over to this new size when new print runs are needed.

On a personal level, I really do not understand the point of the 'B' size, which is halfway between normal mmpb and trade paperback, and am bemused why publishers are doing it when paper costs are so high.

The newer prints of mmpb NoK had the prologues, but when it first came out in mmpb it didn't. Since we haven't gotten the Stonewielder prologue on the forums yet (and afaik aren't getting it anytime soon), there will most likely not be it in the mmpb RotCG until a while later.

I'm pretty sure this isn't right. The NoK mmpb I looked at when it first came out had the RotCG prologue in it, and it was after the prologue had already appeared here. It is almost unheard of for changes to be made to a book within the same print edition.

[Abalieno]

out of luck. All the UK publishers, SF&F or otherwise, are moving to the new mass-market paperback 'B' size as the new default size for all their books. Gollancz and Orbit have been switching over the last year, although Voyager seems to be holding out (they recently rejacketed all of Robin Hobb and Raymond Feist's books in the standard paperback size), and Bantam have also now made a start with Erikson and Durham. Not only would I not expect a 'normal' paperback size to appear, I am fully expecting all of the existing Malazan books to all jump over to this new size when new print runs are needed.

Noone lives in Canada and can confirm what format they are using?

Toll the Hounds in mass market is already out in the shops.

[Werthead]

Noone lives in Canada and can confirm what format they are using?

Toll the Hounds in mass market is already out in the shops.

Interesting.

Comparing the editions on Amazon.ca and Amazon.co.uk, I note that a 'normal' mmpb was listed for Britain and then cancelled in favour of the 'B'-size paperback. But according to Amazon.ca, the edition of TTH available there is 'normal' sized. Can someone confirm that? Interesting if Bantam was producing a 'normal' paperback specially for the Canadian market, or as an international edition.

The mmpb of RotCG on Amazon.ca is indeed also listed at the 'normal' sized and not the B format.

[pat5150]

We get whatever format gets published in the UK, as the books are shipped from across the pond. The only difference is that we can't always get the hardback editions, for UK publishers are fond of the trade paperback import format. . .

As for a Stonewielder prologue, please don't hold your breath. . .

Patrick

[Werthead]

We get whatever format gets published in the UK, as the books are shipped from across the pond. The only difference is that we can't always get the hardback editions, for UK publishers are fond of the trade paperback import format. . .

Are you sure? The dimensions listed for the MMPB of TTH on Amazon.ca currently on sale are for a 'normal' paperback, whilst on .co.uk are for the 'B' sized one. Interesting to hear anyone else chiming in on this who bought a paperback copy of TTH in Canada.

As for a Stonewielder prologue, please don't hold your breath. . .

According to the Bantam press release of a few months back, they're not expecting STONEWIELDER to be finished before the end of the year, so yeah, a bit early for the prologue.

[Abalieno]

As for a Stonewielder prologue, please don't hold your breath. . .

Yep, confirmed. The book DOES NOT contain the prologue.

But it's never early for a prologue. A Feast for Crows had a prologue even if the book is still not complete. I'd imagine Esslemont started from it and even if it will be changed no one will complain.

As for the canadian format for the books I'd still like to see this confirmed by someone who saw the book.

[pat5150]

Guys, I received a copy of the book. Canada sells the exact same paperback that Bantam releases in the UK. They don't print a separate run just for us Canucks, as the market isn't worth it.

Patrick

[Salt-Man Z]

So if I let my preorder go through, I'm going to get a book that, besides not matching the info given on Amazon's site, won't even fit on my MMPB-sized shelves with the rest of my Malazan books? Friggin' great. At this point, I may as well just save my money for the Tor MMPB release in 2 years...

[End of Disc One]

So if I let my preorder go through, I'm going to get a book that, besides not matching the info given on Amazon's site, won't even fit on my MMPB-sized shelves with the rest of my Malazan books? Friggin' great. At this point, I may as well just save my money for the Tor MMPB release in 2 years...

I've noticed you post several times before, and I feel the same way as you. I hate it when books change design or format mid-series, and I hate how the MMPBs' font changed after MoI. But for RotCG I finally got so fed up that I ordered it, and will buy another MMPB when it comes out.

Also I think the US Malazan books have switched to the UK art, which sucks. I saw GotM and NoK trade paperbacks published by Tor with the UK art.